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I didn't see this when it went out, a friend at work sent me the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzSdE7SWhXg

I thought thyat the performance was pretty good but using an ID on TV is a bit cheeky!!

Anyone know the name of the trick with the burned off Joker?

The first trick was Freak by Will Huston, then he did French Kiss by Wayne Houchin.

I don't know the name of the joker effect but i'd love to do that bit where the chosen card flew out of the deck. That was all a bit good.

Grimshaw wrote:I don't know the name of the joker effect but i'd love to do that bit where the chosen card flew out of the deck. That was all a bit good.

The cloak?

Gotta say, I don't think much of his presentation... mainly because I think it would be improved MASSIVELY if he stopped that utterly heinous bit of dancing-while-cutting "Dynamo Shuffle" that he does every single time you see him on or at anything... it's terrible.
The "dancing" bit is so bad it takes away from an otherwise impressive (to the lay peeps at least) bit of card work.

As for the tricks themselves - nice. His execution is pretty well bang on - despite being a bit monotonous/Blaine-like - and that performance strikes me as being one of the better ones.

It's good to see him getting some recognition outside the hiphop world though.

Keep it up, lad - just stop yer dancin' - it does you no favours!

Probably nerves.

Grimshaw wrote:I don't know the name of the joker effect but i'd love to do that bit where the chosen card flew out of the deck. That was all a bit good.

Well I am sure the 1st would come in a flash and the other would come to u if you thought about "IT" long enough. LOL

Didnt say i didn't know how they were done old boy, just that i don't know the names of either of them and i'd love to do the second one.

As for the dancing, though it might not be your thing, has anyone heard of a thing called misdirection? While people are looking at his nifty loafers, they're missing him controlling their card to where ever he wants it.

He always gets good reactions from it, but I'm sure he'll put on a top hat and pull some rabbits from it if you want.

Grimshaw wrote:As for the dancing, though it might not be your thing, has anyone heard of a thing called misdirection? While people are looking at his nifty loafers, they're missing him controlling their card to where ever he wants it.

He always gets good reactions from it, but I'm sure he'll put on a top hat and pull some rabbits from it if you want.

Exactly, you could do just about anything undetected while the dancing is going on. Puts misdirection in to a new plane!!

I would love to be able to do the pull out, tied for ages last night but don't think I have enough IT knowledge to do this.

Grimshaw wrote:Didnt say i didn't know how they were done old boy, just that i don't know the names of either of them and i'd love to do the second one.

As for the dancing, though it might not be your thing, has anyone heard of a thing called misdirection? While people are looking at his nifty loafers, they're missing him controlling their card to where ever he wants it.

He always gets good reactions from it, but I'm sure he'll put on a top hat and pull some rabbits from it if you want.

Listen, if you need to do something like that in order to misdirect,you have serious problems.

AND it's bad magic, because your audiences are going to say..."Oh he must of done something when he did that dance thing and we all looked at his shoes"

Good misdirection, doesnt give the audience a " he must of" moment, because they never remember it.

Johnny Wizz wrote:

Grimshaw wrote:As for the dancing, though it might not be your thing, has anyone heard of a thing called misdirection? While people are looking at his nifty loafers, they're missing him controlling their card to where ever he wants it.

He always gets good reactions from it, but I'm sure he'll put on a top hat and pull some rabbits from it if you want.

Exactly, you could do just about anything undetected while the dancing is going on. Puts misdirection in to a new plane!!

I would love to be able to do the pull out, tied for ages last night but don't think I have enough IT knowledge to do this.

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Would have to say that's probably the best I have seen Dynamo he seems to have professionalised hes routines a bit to make them appeal to the audiance more

daleshrimpton wrote:

Grimshaw wrote:Didnt say i didn't know how they were done old boy, just that i don't know the names of either of them and i'd love to do the second one.

As for the dancing, though it might not be your thing, has anyone heard of a thing called misdirection? While people are looking at his nifty loafers, they're missing him controlling their card to where ever he wants it.

He always gets good reactions from it, but I'm sure he'll put on a top hat and pull some rabbits from it if you want.

Listen, if you need to do something like that in order to misdirect,you have serious problems.

AND it's bad magic, because your audiences are going to say..."Oh he must of done something when he did that dance thing and we all looked at his shoes"

Good misdirection, doesnt give the audience a " he must of" moment, because they never remember it.

Gotta say i disagree with you there Mr Shrimpton. I mean, you presume what audiences are going to say, yet clearly Dynamo's audience there didn't say or think anything of the sort. If anything i'd say his audience were just blown away by a bunch of effects readily available. Being a very well experienced magician, you can't possibly hope to imagine what a lay person would think, you simply don't have the luxury of being in that position anymore.

And besides, you misdirect however you want. There's no hard and fast rules. Those that think there are end up causing most of the arguments on these kind of forums.

The end result should be the spectator's reactions. Judging by the footage, i dont think Dynamo has much to worry about and the people there certainly would not have labelled it bad magic.

Dynamos audience was being filmed.

People that are being filmed are not your typical audience.

Proof of that if needed, is the over the top reactions to Blaine, Angel, Dynamo... and yes, even the L&L Audience.

You should never judge a trick, or a performer souly on the reactions on videos.

How many times do you hear of people going and getting the latest Gizmo.. Gecko, or Tarantula for example, selling said Gizmo 6 months later, because " Its not quite for me"?

I bet that the reason Its not "quite for me" Is, that it doesnt get the reactions it was getting on the trailer.

This is why people like Elusionist, shoot huge amounts of video clips on the street. They know Damn well that the artificial audience reaction will be guarenteed.


and, going back to Dynamo, you have to remember that when hes seen performing live, a good 70+% of the posts on forums quite clearly state, that they were dissapointed with his performance.This has nothing to to with his abilities as a performer... But much to do with the fact that the liveaudience , isnt screaming out and jumping around like the ones on the videos.

It's a double edged sword.

daleshrimpton wrote:

Johnny Wizz wrote:

Grimshaw wrote:As for the dancing, though it might not be your thing, has anyone heard of a thing called misdirection? While people are looking at his nifty loafers, they're missing him controlling their card to where ever he wants it.

He always gets good reactions from it, but I'm sure he'll put on a top hat and pull some rabbits from it if you want.

Exactly, you could do just about anything undetected while the dancing is going on. Puts misdirection in to a new plane!!

I would love to be able to do the pull out, tied for ages last night but don't think I have enough IT knowledge to do this.

loops.

Dale - this is exposure. Pls remove.

daleshrimpton wrote:Dynamos audience was being filmed.

People that are being filmed are not your typical audience.

Proof of that if needed, is the over the top reactions to Blaine, Angel, Dynamo... and yes, even the L&L Audience.

You should never judge a trick, or a performer souly on the reactions on videos.

and, going back to Dynamo, you have to remember that when hes seen performing live, a good 70+% of the posts on forums quite clearly state, that they were dissapointed with his performance.

Nonsense. On both accounts. I've spent over 8 years shooting magic and it can be as hard to get a reaction on film as it can be without a camera. People tend to be more self aware on film and often try to keep their composure, making it tough to get a natural reaction.

Soccer am is filmed 'as live' so you don't have the same controls you might find on a pre-record, if it goes wrong or the guests don't react it will still be aired.

Clearly, 70% of the posts you read are less than a percent of what everyone else does.