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Duplicate spectator signature

Postby luxeomni » Jan 9th, '10, 07:27



Was wondering if there was any effect which need to duplicate the signature of a spectator on a card. Like he signs it and then u ( with a method that i need to search for ;) ) duplicate the signature maybe on a duplicate card, so you can do for exemple an ultra clean torn and restored.

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Postby Thomas Heine » Jan 9th, '10, 07:47

The literature offers several effects which seemingly (!) transfer a signature from one card to another.
As far as I know all of them just convey the impression of a real transfer while they in fact use different techniques.
By thinking about this problem you will find a solution for sure.

The only real transfer of a signature that run into me over the years was introduced to the magic community within the frame of the FISM congress in 1997 by Juan Carlos Rodarte from Mexico.
The gimmick/effect was called "Miracle Makers".
You got a gimmick for a red or a blue backed deck and also a pen.
The price was somehow around 70 or 80 $.
But while the popularity of this idea was huge in context of the congress it couldn't assert itself on the market;
like most of the ideas which turn out as much to complicated for a real world use.

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Postby Dirty Davey » Jan 9th, '10, 08:58

There is the crystal method, which can duplicate and transfer signatures. I don't know the method but from what I've heard it doesn't sound all that clean or as useful as you'd think.

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Postby Eshly » Jan 9th, '10, 12:27

I'e just thought of 3 different possible ways to TRANSFER a signiture... but as for duplicating one... Hmm... much harder :/

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Postby Beardy » Jan 9th, '10, 15:15

Why not 'rub off' the signiture, so they resign the card?

Think inside the box a bit more...don't duplicate, just get them to sign it twice!

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Postby JoelDickinson » Jan 9th, '10, 16:31

Hi.

There are many effects and sleights to give the impression of duplicating the spectators signature along with showing a full pack of playing cards with your spectators signature.

Royal Road to Card Magic covers these sleights in great detail.

All the best.

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Postby Johnny Wizz » Jan 9th, '10, 20:23

Beardy wrote:Why not 'rub off' the signiture, so they resign the card?

Think inside the box a bit more...don't duplicate, just get them to sign it twice!


Nice Beardy,very nice.

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Postby jhmagic1 » Jan 10th, '10, 02:06

Beardy wrote:Why not 'rub off' the signiture, so they resign the card?


David Williamson has a version of this, with a Letraset product (on the international magic lecture)

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Postby aporia » Jan 10th, '10, 09:11

pocket writing.

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Postby Craig Browning » Jan 10th, '10, 16:14

Thomas Heine wrote:The literature offers several effects which seemingly (!) transfer a signature from one card to another.
As far as I know all of them just convey the impression of a real transfer while they in fact use different techniques.
By thinking about this problem you will find a solution for sure.

The only real transfer of a signature that run into me over the years was introduced to the magic community within the frame of the FISM congress in 1997 by Juan Carlos Rodarte from Mexico.
The gimmick/effect was called "Miracle Makers".
You got a gimmick for a red or a blue backed deck and also a pen.
The price was somehow around 70 or 80 $.
But while the popularity of this idea was huge in context of the congress it couldn't assert itself on the market;
like most of the ideas which turn out as much to complicated for a real world use.

Cheers
Th.


My buddy Joaquin Ayala introduced me to this method many years ago... being someone that loathes card trick I quickly sought an alternative means to apply the technology, but over-all it was a most excellent method...
... I've not thought about it in ages, I think I need to pull it back out :twisted:

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Postby luxeomni » Jan 10th, '10, 16:47

seems impossible to find "miracle makers" on the market, do you know a place where i can buy it at least to study the technology ? :)

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Postby Thomas Heine » Jan 10th, '10, 17:46

Craig Browning wrote:... I quickly sought an alternative means to apply the technology, but over-all it was a most excellent method...

I totally agree; applying the idea resp. the technique in an other context makes it very useful for the creative ones.
But I guess for the requested use - duplicating the signature of a spectator - it won't fit the usual demands of the verymost cardmagicians.
And I have no problems with this, ... 8)

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Postby JoelDickinson » Jan 10th, '10, 18:00

I like the idea of getting the same ;) card signed twice beardy, within the same routine.

That opens up a lot of possibilities.

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Postby luxeomni » Jan 10th, '10, 18:22

i m trying to work around a routine, with 2 duplicates with my signature on the back, the spectator sign a card ( my signature is already on a back but they don't know it ), and then with sleights i tell them that i ll sign the back of it, but i m copying ( with i hope enough skills that it ll be the roughly same ) their signature on the face of the other duplicate, so i have know two cards with my signature on the back and theirs on the front.

do you know similar routine in litterature or dvd that i could study for this ?

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Postby JoelDickinson » Jan 10th, '10, 19:21

That's great thinking, it comes with the obvious risks.

However if you ask your volunteer to print their name in the middle of the card to make it clear then printed writing will be easier to duplicate(maybe)

You could also force a card such as an eight, nine and ten of clubs or spades. Anything wrote on it won't be very clear as the suggested cards are visually cluttered.

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