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First thing first, is that a good price? Also, I've heard that some methods are impromptu. How impromptu? And do these create the same effects? And how complex are the necessary sleights? Is the setup difficult, as I don't want to be cutting up bottles or building elaborate props. Sorry for all the questions!

Its not impromptu at all, though it does LOOK impromptu if presented correctly.

Tom
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Loaded, and we mean loaded, with totally original concepts and routines that extend to self-working, impromptu, surrounded, and extra visual.

All magic should look impromptu ignoring the use of props (e.g cups and balls needed for... a game of snooker at a bar... you know exactley what I mean! xD) That is kind of the idea. Impromptu is a term only useful to magicians on the basis of practicality, to the audience it is irrelivant.

It is NOT impromptu then, not by a long shot.

spooneythegoon wrote:

Loaded, and we mean loaded, with totally original concepts and routines that extend to self-working, impromptu, surrounded, and extra visual.

So the description of the product is blatantly lying?

in the uk for sure and probs us that would be illegal. When you pay for something the buyer and seller enter a contract that states the payer will recieve the product AS DESCRIBED. Elementary Law and if this is the case you have serious cause to complain.

So it must have some impromptu methods?

no idea. Would be quite dodgy otherwise. Perhaps they get around it by some clever wording and definition of impromptu, but honestly I don't know.

I don't see a problem with the advertizing. Take a step back you may not like the method once you get it, but that doesn't mean it can't be done to look like it sounds. Thats the problem with magic. Buying a Steinway piano is not going to make you a better piano player. Remember magic requires some sneaky stuff and practice. And yes, amazingly enough you may have to prepare something in advance, and given that you have done that you may perform the effect 'impromptu' I don't claim to know how this is done, but I know a lot about magic, selling magic and gimmicks. It is like anything else, and the method is not magic.

I agree, I'm not really too bothered about weather or not an effect is impromptu or not if it is that's a bonus, but a strong effect is a strong effect. Still, if it isn't impromptu and there are no impromptu methods that is dodgy advertising. I can only assume they must be telling the truth.

On the version of the effect that I bought, it claimed to teach an impromptu version AND a signed coin version, but there was absolutly no mention of either.

So, Elshy, just to clarify.... not impromptu?

Lawrence wrote:So, Elshy, just to clarify.... not impromptu?

**Eshly is pleased because he realised this was sarcasm**

Eshly wrote:On the version of the effect that I bought, it claimed to teach an impromptu version AND a signed coin version, but there was absolutly no mention of either.

But it doesn't use coins...