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by **Marting** » Jun 16th, '10, 16:31

hi im looking for a name of a force that i seen when watching roger crothswaite perform in london a few years back. he has a spectator shuffle the deck and cut it they look at there card and put it back and then they shuffle the deck before handing it back.

Any thoughts?

by **Lawrence** » Jun 16th, '10, 17:36

A one way deck?

by **IAIN** » Jun 16th, '10, 17:37

email and ask him..

by **Lenoir** » Jun 16th, '10, 17:56

Could do that with a Svengali deck, one way deck etc...

by **Marting** » Jun 16th, '10, 22:00

i dont belive it was a svengali. iv not much experience with gaff decks but is a one way deck all the same? if so i belive he spread the cards therefore eliminating that prospect. but correct me where im wrong.

or to rephrase the question does anyone know a method using a normal deck?

by **Marting** » Jun 16th, '10, 22:13

message sent to roger crosthwaite. awaiting reply.

cheers iain

by **Lawrence** » Jun 17th, '10, 08:08

Why use a normal deck when a gaff makes it easier?
You could try a marked deck.

by **Rob** » Jun 17th, '10, 08:13

Could be accomplished with a Mirage Deck

by **daleshrimpton** » Jun 17th, '10, 09:20

sounds like a ridge card is in play.

by **Lady of Mystery** » Jun 17th, '10, 11:54

The cross cut force perhaps?

by **bmat** » Jun 18th, '10, 16:21

could be an 'aircard' in there. which may be the same as a 'ridge card' but I'm unfarmiliar with that term.

by **Robmonster** » Jun 18th, '10, 17:03

Sounds interesting...

by **Marting** » Jun 20th, '10, 19:35

thanks for the ideas. im going to try a breather crimp or a ridge card and see how that works out.

i dont think the gaff deck are usefull for thiss as im trying to force a key card to gain a position for an ACAAN effect. idea being if i can get the spectator to locate my key card then i won't have to touch the deck.

by **bmat** » Jun 22nd, '10, 17:32

Marting wrote:thanks for the ideas. im going to try a breather crimp or a ridge card and see how that works out.

i dont think the gaff deck are usefull for thiss as im trying to force a key card to gain a position for an ACAAN effect. idea being if i can get the spectator to locate my key card then i won't have to touch the deck.

Breather card in an air card. And it will work...most of the time. I'd have a handy 'out' at the ready. Paul Daniels used a one way deck, it was brilliant. You don't have to spread the deck first to show the faces. Laymen assume the deck is legit. Especially if they get to handle the cards.

by **Marting** » Jun 23rd, '10, 02:43

any chance you could expand on what an air card is?

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