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i have had no trouble with this trick what so ever its the best visual vanishing tool ever
it does take a while to get on the right place on your jacket but once youve got it its amazing
buy it

I agree - you need to wear the "right clothes" for this to be positioned just right, but once you have that down pat the device itself is fantastic. Some mind-blowing effects can be achieved - worth investing in a few of the "extras" if they did not come with your Raven - shim coins, magnetic shells, etc, etc.

i bought a raven second hand but didnt recieve instructions so its been ptretty much trial and error for me but i have to ask.... whats the big black rubber ring for????

a little tip... if you have access to a lathe.. a magnetic shell can be made easily from a £1 coin, use a little magicians wax and stick a piece of "feeler gauge" inside for £1 to 5p transformations

thats a good idea i hadn't thought of trying that

has anyone tried the reel raven?

i had the reel raven but couldn't get on with it, if you have had both which would you consider to be better?

never had the reel raven ... was dubious about buying it after i saw a review "vernets universal pull" was 1/4 of the price and better was the general gist of it

My advice is definitely to stick with the Original Raven. The reel raven only has one advantage - you can set it up quickly. Other than this, it only has disadvantages!

cheers, i think i will have to get hold of the original then, with out going into too much detail as to how it works i got a feeling that the reel raven wasnt man enough for the job

coincidently i am selling an original raven... am waiting on a guy getting back to me but if he doesnt, see the "sale" forum, will even throw in one of my own made £1 magnetic shells (anyone else wants one can buy them from me by email) ... hehe loves self advertising