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Postby kolm » Jan 3rd, '11, 01:49



nameless wrote:I don't watch much TV as it is, only two or three programmes on a regular basis, none of them on the BBC. Hand on heart, I do not get £145 of value from the BBC per year.

What do you do for entertainment?

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Postby ajaxjones » Jan 3rd, '11, 01:50

I know fairly well one of the celebs thats on this, well in the next couple of shows. The problem I think is that the celeb is always going to over power the magician. tricky but its a start, perhaps magic might become cool again ;)

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Postby Jack94 » Jan 3rd, '11, 06:24

I thought the show was ok, but I did start to feel bored towards the end and I'm looking more forward to the 'Fool us' on friday.

Some people said Barry and Stuart weren't very good magicians, well they weren't on that programme, but after watching this performance, I'd say they were quite good :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yw7oX5CXhk

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Postby aporia » Jan 3rd, '11, 11:38

kolm wrote:What do you do for entertainment?


he he he. you don't need TV for entertainment! over the twelve days of Christmas I probably will watch at most ten to fourteen hours which includes one hour on iplayer of "the magicians". Living in Kent means we don't get Channel 5 and I don't have sat or cable. Having two small children means that the television is never on during daylight, which reduces the opportunities. Having said that, I did used to like East Enders. It took nearly ten years for EE to evolve to the point where I didn't recognise any of the characters. </end off topic>

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Postby Mandrake » Jan 3rd, '11, 17:40

Jordan C wrote:STAY ON TOPIC PLEASE!


I fully agree. Please take note that posts about TV fees, Debts and other irrelevant topics should be in a separate thread and any more in this one will be removed so we can all concentrate on the original topic. There are 4 more shows to go so can we keep it all sweet and on topic please...pretty please?

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Postby Dirty Davey » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:36

I quite enjoyed the programme, a couple of the performances did seem to dag but on the whole I thought it was nice to see some decent magic on TV for a change.

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Postby kartoffelngeist » Jan 3rd, '11, 20:11

I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that Barry and Stuart are among Derren Brown's favourite magicians...

I really liked their use of the hand through body illusion, just something different and unexpected...

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Postby DaveM » Jan 3rd, '11, 20:41

Barry and Stuart shone through for me. They showed unique style compared to some very uninspiring performances from the other 2 magicians.

My partner is not particularly interested in magic and I find it hard to surprise her, but she liked Barry and Stuarts sweet shop and cardboard box acts and she said she found all the rest "a bit boring".

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Postby V.E. Day » Jan 3rd, '11, 21:26

rvoice100 wrote: I'm sorry guys but magic is cheesy, magic is trickery, magic is immature. These are things I hear quite often. Magic is not the hippest thing these days and magic on tv often needs gimmicks to get viewers.





If just showing traditional magic on a tv show would fail to attract viewers then how come the David Blaine show, where he did the old trick from the 1950s where he was frozen in ice in Trafalgar Square attract so many viewers?

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Postby Heavy on the Magik » Jan 4th, '11, 00:19

David Blaine attracts so many views because he comes across as knowing something you dont - like hes constantly withholding something from you but he MIGHT just let you in on it.

I s**t you not - alot of people ive talked to mention something like the above as a reason for watching a man walk around in a T shirt floating leaves and sticking cards to windows.

The magicians show was of the same standard (i believe) as most of the shows on BBC and ITV at that time of day - one can only assume its because most people are busy getting ready to go out and dont want anything with any great depth of detail in it.

The good thing is that if enough interest is generated in it, maybe, just maybe, other shows with magic or even variety acts in them may be able to springboard off its success with the general public and take up regular viewing slots.

On a side note - my dear old mum thought it was fantastic - and she even compared it to Paul Daniels magic show - a detail i found highly amusing.

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Postby Starving Stu » Jan 4th, '11, 13:16

Dreadful, dreadful, dreadful.

You know I could only watch half of it. After all if you're passionate about something and you see it being painfully desecrated like that well........it was all a bit too much for me. I suppose I felt like a keen French Impressionist art historian would, watching in horror as a z list celebrity empties his bowels on Monet's Water Lilies for some wacky celeb show on TV (Celebrity Turds?).

To be fair it was the format that let it down and has been clearly stated in other posts, the fact that it was obvious the 'celebrities' clearly hadn't rehearsed much. Lenny Henry was also dreadful as the host, very wooden, very unfunny.

The magicians in my opinion are not to blame. They're very talented guys. And I've loved Barry and Stuart for years. Was it wishful thinking in believing I could feel 'frustrated vibes' during all of their performances?

Ah well maybe it'll improve as the weeks go on.

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Postby V.E. Day » Jan 4th, '11, 23:17

Heavy on the Magik wrote:David Blaine attracts so many views because he comes across as knowing something you dont - like hes constantly withholding something from you but he MIGHT just let you in on it.

I s**t you not - alot of people ive talked to mention something like the above as a reason for watching a man walk around in a T shirt floating leaves and sticking cards to windows.



You mean that David Blaine is a proper quality act, whereas this show was a bunch of people I've never heard of nor probably ever will plus some ropey looking magic illusions.


Edit - yes Lenny Henry Ive heard of him, he used to do that Saturday morning kids show with the custard pies when I was a little'un. Was this show a step up from there or a step down?

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Postby rvoice100 » Jan 5th, '11, 12:21

Ve.day :

On the forums, frozen in time took just as much "heat" as this show people here were saying why is he doing stupid stunts, where's his patter he doesn't perform. Truth be told, magicians will never be thrilled with a magic tv show, for many reasons but at the end of the day doing tricks does not a magician make so how can half of us criticize?

If I tell jokes am I a comedian? Nope, so can I criticize a comedianss performance? saying I can do better? Nope.

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Postby DenmarkKilo » Jan 5th, '11, 12:32

As someone with the tiniest inkling as to how things work, I do not believe it to be fair for me to explain my views on the show. It isn't targeted at me. I did, however, watch it with my family on my insistence, and for the most part they enjoyed it. The webcam mentalism was odd, the forfeit was semi-OK, but to them they immediately saw how the first illusion featuring Diversity worked.

Overall, they enjoyed it, and isn't that supposed to be the main thing?

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Jan 5th, '11, 13:01

I really loved the webcam effect, it was just a little bit of good fun and I thought a brilliant idea.

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