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the Leyser 2020 is an item that the MI5 use all the time.

So logical mind comes to play. If the MI% and CID use such an item then surely you will be able to pick something like this up from a Spy shop. If so, would the item be cheaper. Becosue as we all know, when a normal everyday item is used in a Magic Trick, the price of the Magic Trick is high, due to this apparent Gimmick.

I can't comment on MI5 but find it extremely unlikely that they would use something such as this. I can certainly state that police CID don't use items and gadgets such as these and rely on good old detective work!

You will not be able to buy an item such as the Leyser 2000, or anything similar in a spy shop - well not the professional ones anyway so I wouldn't waste your time looking for one. I'm not talking about the consumer electronic shops along Tottenham Court Road (for those of you who know London) and they don't sell these products anyway, but shops such as http://www.spymaster.co.uk which is renowned as the best in the UK.

No disrespect but on this occasion the thought process is not logical.

I agree, The Leyser 2020 is specially made specifically as a trick you will definitely won't find it elsewhere on the web apart from a magic dealer. I know this for a fact. The reason I know this is because Keelan uses my company to make them specifically to his specifications.

For your information Guys, the reason my thought process was as above,w as becouse i was told by (No names mentioned) a dealer that was selling it at Blackpool that the priciple was used by the M15. SO if he was not telling the truth, then of cource the thought process will b wrong.

so is the Leyser 2020 worth buying then?
Derren brown used to guess which hand a coin was in , is it the leyser2020 that he uses?
Thats the only trick similar that i can think of that ive seen. Does it make a noise or can it be easily seen?
thanks
james (highlander )

Just to clarify things Derren Brown does not use the leyser 2020 for the coin in the hand.

Its a totally different method that he uses.

Cheers!

so where can ifind out the method that derren brown uses? He done a trick with a watch under a cup as well. I just dont want anything that is visible to the audience.

cheers

james (highlander)

Derrens method is similar but different... very clever and well hidden though =)

Arrggghhhhh!

So many different opinions, think I can work out how the gimmick works.

Can someone tell me if I need certain length clothing for this?

Alos does it only work on certain types of material?

Im guessing yes to these

Cheers
Rob

I'm guessing yes also.
But more importantly, the feedback has been generally very good, hence my order for one today .......

I've cracked - going to order one now.

Cant help myself - perhaps we need to start MA (magicians anonymous) for people addicted to buying magic


Rob

Check out http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic2676.php&highlight= and climb aboard the wagon - you are amongst fellow suffers!

So, did you order?

yes

I cant beleive how addictive this magic lark is.

Should be with me before lunch today (having it delivered to work, so hopefully its in a plain box / envelope, last think I had delivered from magictricks had 'magictricks.co.uk' plastered all over the box)

Cheers
Rob

Hehe, good luck. It seems like a nice walk-around tricks, and I have an idea on how it COULD have been solved. Anyway, there are lots of way of doing it I guess... it just needs to be created.... let us know !