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Hey, guys I am new member in the forum and I am in need of some help. I saw this cool TV magic trick but I kind of forgot the name of the show or the trick so I need someone to help me out. It's stupid cuz it wasn't even that much of a magic trick but the effect it had on me was great.

So .... The deal was that the magician wanted to play a magic trick and the audience was to help him. I remind you that this was on TV and it was probably why the effect was so spectacular.

An octagon (I believe it was an octagon) appeared on the tv screen. It was separated in a couple of different parts (I'm not sure the right count of parts it was separated ) and in each there was a photo of a magician. The idea of the trick was that you could pick anyone of the faces and then follow carefully the magician instructions. By the end you were suppose to be pointing at the unmasked picture of the masked magician (some of you might remember him)

Anyway ... me and two friends of mine who were present at the time kinda got into it so we stepped in front the TV and we each picked a different photo. By the time the trick was ended we were all pointing at the same picture which was also the picture that was the right answer.

So basically the trick is that by starting in any part of the magic figure by following a certain pattern you will always get to the same final result. Can someone please help me out?

I kind of need the answer to this in the next 12-15 hours so if anyone had seen the trick or a tick like it I'll take it. Thanks!

Sublinimal instructions and focused microwaves, unfortunately it only works on television or on a computer. Look into the M.K Ultra project.

You keep referring to this as a trick, in your post....but - in actuality - this is (as Jean has already pointed out) as close to real mentalism as you can get.

It requires at least 6 months of dedicated practise and very specific type of focussed microwave emitter (begin your research here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 603AAIEmYU)

Hope this helps, and good luck!

12-15 hours??

Even I can't achieve this effect and I've been studying the arts for 12 years.

If you are serious about magic then I would suggest leaving the advanced stuff to the pro's. If you want to start out in magic it's worth booking a magic course online. The good ones start at around £3000 for four basic lessons. Anything cheaper and it's a con. DO NOT throw your money away on cheaper courses. You will get ripped off.

If you need an introduction when you book onto the course, MagicRob has the appropriate years in magic to recommend you to a lecturer.

Good luck and best wishes.
Alec

Alec Kobain wrote:If you need an introduction when you book onto the course, MagicRob has the appropriate years in magic to recommend you to a lecturer.

Goddamn you, young whipper-snapper; you always go out of your way to mention my great age

Of course, what young Alec failed to mention - but I'm certain he will be PMing the OP - is that his own course in the Magical Arts is the very best place to start (though undeniably expensive at £6500); if one man can make you tomorrows Dynamo, Alec *is* that man (and why not? I taught him everything he knows, before I retired from the game, many years ago )

Jean Eugene Roberts wrote:Sublinimal instructions and focused microwaves, unfortunately it only works on television or on a computer. Look into the M.K Ultra project.

This is how government elections work. It's how labour was so far behind in the polls and yet came so close to forming another government. Everyone picked their candidate (or decided not to vote) and through the same methods were forced to vote the way they were supposed to.

Did you ever wonder why the public dislikes magic and magicians?
A guy comes on here and asks for information that we (probably rightly) are not willing to just give him. Instead of explaining that politely, we all take turns abusing him, taking the *, and generally sneering at him in a condesending way.
Maybe that's why the public don't warm to us.

TonyB wrote:Did you ever wonder why the public dislikes magic and magicians?
A guy comes on here and asks for information that we (probably rightly) are not willing to just give him. Instead of explaining that politely, we all take turns abusing him, taking the *, and generally sneering at him in a condesending way.
Maybe that's why the public don't warm to us.

I've never wondered why the public dislike magic and magicians because that statement is simply not true.

The OP had given us a time scale in which he HAD to learn the method of the trick. Does this sound like a budding Houdini to you?

If he follows the advice (and I'm very doubtful he will) then by performing a simple search he will discover a multitude of magic courses in which to enroll.

Cheer up a bit Tony! Life's too short.

Alec

Jean Eugene Roberts wrote:Sublinimal instructions and focused microwaves, unfortunately it only works on television or on a computer. Look into the M.K Ultra project.

Yes, I know! I'll try to perform this trick to an audience thats in front of their computer while I'm guiding them via chat, however I don't believe that the abuse of LSD will help me achieve my goals What this really is is or I think it is, is simple (not simple but rather obvious) theory of probability and statistics. There must be a pattern that's multi functional or ultimate pattern (if you prefer to call it this way) that you can apply to any 1st cell and always have the same outcome - ending up on the same cell. I prefer to think this as a Rubik cube rather than KGB/CSI home project.

Thank you magicrob for the link. It kinda helped thanks for the support

Alec Kobain wrote:If you are serious about magic then I would suggest leaving the advanced stuff to the pro's. If you want to start out in magic it's worth booking a magic course online. The good ones start at around £3000 for four basic lessons. Anything cheaper and it's a con. DO NOT throw your money away on cheaper courses. You will get ripped off.

Even though I would like to say that I am serious about magic I can't because I am very much scared of magic. I love not knowing how it's done because every time I see a trick I fell like a child again. However ... I can say that I am very much serious about this trick in particular.

TonyB wrote:Did you ever wonder why the public dislikes magic and magicians?
A guy comes on here and asks for information that we (probably rightly) are not willing to just give him. Instead of explaining that politely, we all take turns abusing him, taking the *, and generally sneering at him in a condesending way.
Maybe that's why the public don't warm to us.

I can't agree with you... I do love magicians and magic tricks. Actually I believe everyone does. I like to think that the only reason why any of these fine gentleman are not giving me the information to this trick is probably because they too don't have the answer to it. It is a difficult trick to perform and you'll need to have the combination for it.

TonyB wrote:Did you ever wonder why the public dislikes magic and magicians?

I always assumed it's because we're a bunch of dickheads; but i could be wrong

Lawrence wrote:

TonyB wrote:Did you ever wonder why the public dislikes magic and magicians?

I always assumed it's because we're a bunch of dickheads; but i could be wrong

I think you're onto something.

Be that as it may, are we going to offer helpful suggestions or not?

Mandrake wrote:Be that as it may, are we going to offer helpful suggestions or not?

I think that if Justme hangs around, starts to show a real interest in magic and contributes then he can dip his magic quill into the talk magic ink well.

Is that fair enough?

Justme,

Hopefully you will have gathered that we get a lot of people join here purely to try and discover how certain effects are achieved. I hope that you took the above comments in the good humour that they were intended.

Unfortunately for you, it's not common that someone leaves these pages with the information they sought unless you are a regular contributer. I myself still struggle to get answers from users such as magic rob. (could be due to his age!)

You have mentioned that certain things interest you, may I suggest you buy a book for beginners such as Mark Wilsons complete course. You will find it most fun and it is the first building block for many magicians who use this site.

Hope there is something you can use in my reply. I also hope that you understand our need to guard the secrets?

Alec

If you buy a copy of Self Working Mental Magic, By Karl Fulves you will find a number of effects that could be presented in the way that you have described.

the book is very inexpensive, and if this is the kind of magic you like, i am sure the small investment will repay you many times.

Mandrake wrote:Be that as it may, are we going to offer helpful suggestions or not?

I gave it in the other thread.
I would suggest this one just me removed

Edit: just noticed Dale has given the same advice in this thread too.
Maybe combine the 2 and trim the fat?