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by **Hodgkinson** » Jul 8th, '05, 10:44

Does anyone have this yet
http://www.penguinmagic.com/europe/product.php?ID=752&source=20548

It sounds good, looks fairly good from the video. Just wondered if anyone has first hand experience of it yet.

by **zigzag** » Jul 8th, '05, 17:57

that looked good to me too until i watched the video and picked up on a certain something.... might not be anything but that just bothers me...

hint: - watch the hand thats holding the glass...how come everytime the bill is produced it does that :roll:

by **Mandrake** » Jul 8th, '05, 18:07

As per the demo vid referred to elsewhere this week, this is jerky, poor quality, has too many camera cuts and is generally suspicious. Once we get a demo in broad daylight, of one shot showing the effect from start to finish (if that's possible with Enigma) then it might be of interest. It's one thing to have a 'stylised' performance for spectators but, if they're trying to sell this to the magical masses then I think we deserve something much better. At the moment it just looks so naff! :roll:

by **Hodgkinson** » Jul 8th, '05, 18:15

That is kind of what I was thinking.
Maybe similar to Impossible Cap in Bottle :wink:

. If so this could be very easily re-created with a bit of ingenuity :wink:

Maybe a better video would tempt me but I just wanted to know if it is worth getting from someone that has it before parting with my cash.

by **MagicIain** » Jul 8th, '05, 18:27

I wouldn't touch it. The video demo doesn't really reflect what's going on in the blurb on the webpage - as far as I can see, the coin is obviously being dropped by the hand holding the glass - sorry for just coming out with it, forum veterans, but it's SO obvious. Where's the 'pocket to glass' bit that's mentioned? Where's all the stuff with the bill as opposed to the coin?

Buy it as a present for a magician you don't like.

Where has Hawk got to, by the way?

by **zigzag** » Jul 8th, '05, 21:00

maybe you guys will enjoy a much clearer demo video...check this out...from a reputable magic dealer located downtown toronto.

http://www.morrisseymagic.com/closeup.htm

scroll down to find enigma

by **nickj** » Jul 8th, '05, 21:19

That's better! I still feel that it's another repackaging of an old priciple but at least it now lets you see that if you already know of a method that will achieve the same as easily.

by **Hodgkinson** » Jul 8th, '05, 23:00

Just checked out the above video and this makes it a lot clearer, I will not be wasting my money !!
I did however find the disclaimer for the floating effect above Enigma to be quite amusing.

Please note that the photos do not show the actual height of the levitation. The performer is only seen to rise a few inches off of the ground. Please note that this product does not create a blue sphere around the performer during performance.

It's amazing that they even have to put something like this on. Do people in Canada really believe in magic :shock:

by **Mandrake** » Jul 8th, '05, 23:01

Excellent - that's exactly what I had in mind and the effect looks so much better.

by **zigzag** » Jul 9th, '05, 16:25

Quote:
Please note that the photos do not show the actual height of the levitation. The performer is only seen to rise a few inches off of the ground. Please note that this product does not create a blue sphere around the performer during performance.

It's amazing that they even have to put something like this on. Do people in Canada really believe in magic Shocked Exclamation Wink

haha...no no...disclaimers are very popular in north america due to the ease of use in the legal system which is a huge problem...people sue for just about everything and win the cases. For instance in one case a theif was robbing a house and decided to enter from the roof. He stepped in through a glass sunlight in the roof and fell straight down onto the kitchen table where there was a butcher block...apparently he cut himself pretty bad. He sued the house owner for having the butcher block there and won the case. Keep in mind he was trying to rob the house. People sue for just about everything...coffee being too hot is also a large problem in the justice system as if people are burnt by hot coffee they decide its too hot and sue. If its too cold they dont get their moneys worth and sue. So morrisey's is protecting itself by stating the above discalimer before some old chap decides to pick it up and sues becuase there was no blue glow.

Ridiculous....I know....Better damn Beleive it :shock:

by **magicdiscoman** » Jul 10th, '05, 08:00

me thinks there is a touch of neolithical sandra gimickry here...please don't sue me I'm only guessing :cry:

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