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I am looking for a good Triumph effect that does not require a Faro shuffle. Does one exist? If not I will abandon the idea because lif is too short for me to ever master the Faro!!

Try "Triumph" by Dai Vernon, in Stars of Magic.

Barry

Triumph doesn't require a faro shuffle. There are the occasional variations which do, but most don't.

Might i suggest checking out the original by Dai Vernon in Stars of Magic? This doesn't require a faro shuffle, and pay particular attention to the last paragraph of the description, as i think this can make a world of difference.

You could alter the Vernon method by using a Zarrow shuffle, depending on what you are more comfortable using.

There are loads of variations on this effect, but the original is clear in effect, it isn't slowed down or muddled by extra shuffles and displays.

Ah... Barry just beat me to it.

FTHO wrote:Triumph doesn't require a faro shuffle. There are the occasional variations which do, but most don't.

Might i suggest checking out the original by Dai Vernon in Stars of Magic? This doesn't require a faro shuffle, and pay particular attention to the last paragraph of the description, as i think this can make a world of difference.

You could alter the Vernon method by using a Zarrow shuffle, depending on what you are more comfortable using.

There are loads of variations on this effect, but the original is clear in effect, it isn't slowed down or muddled by extra shuffles and displays.

As FTHO as said most methods to acomplish this trick don't require a faro shuffle. I would also suggest you read my comment on your other recent topic on regards to your card magic.

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic46372.php

Anjorno wrote:

FTHO wrote:Triumph doesn't require a faro shuffle. There are the occasional variations which do, but most don't.

Might i suggest checking out the original by Dai Vernon in Stars of Magic? This doesn't require a faro shuffle, and pay particular attention to the last paragraph of the description, as i think this can make a world of difference.

You could alter the Vernon method by using a Zarrow shuffle, depending on what you are more comfortable using.

There are loads of variations on this effect, but the original is clear in effect, it isn't slowed down or muddled by extra shuffles and displays.

As FTHO as said most methods to acomplish this trick don't require a faro shuffle. I would also suggest you read my comment on your other recent topic on regards to your card magic.

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic46372.php

Hi Anjorno. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my posts but you are misunderstanding my meanings and intentions. I am
a reasonably accomplished magician who earns a few bob from close up magic, restaurant work, parties, weddings etc. I am
writing this just having finished a 4 hour Mothers Day stint in a local restaurant. I am happy with the range of sleights I have
and use and don't particularly feel the need to get in to over complicated sleights and certainly don' t do flourishes and all the
tricky stuff magic geeks spend hours learning. Personally I think excessive manipulation of the cards just makes you look a
smart *rse without demonstrating any real magic skills. Performance is the secret to any trick not how many times you can false cut a deck one handed.

The two queries I have posted recently relate to a sleight and an effect that I am looking for a good learning source for. The
change is one James Brown uses in a routine I would like to be able to use and the Triumph effect is something I just haven't
got round to learning yet. I do a Triumph but use a gaffed deck so not all that clever. My mistake in thinking a Faro was needed
came from watching the trick performed on You Tube, something I am old enough to know better than to do!

I am not looking to be told how to do anything. Anyone who does that on here quite rightly gets a swift flea in the ear. When I
ask a question it is only to be pointed to a source of information which I am quite prepared to buy and learn from.

Johnny Wizz wrote:

Anjorno wrote:

FTHO wrote:Triumph doesn't require a faro shuffle. There are the occasional variations which do, but most don't.

Might i suggest checking out the original by Dai Vernon in Stars of Magic? This doesn't require a faro shuffle, and pay particular attention to the last paragraph of the description, as i think this can make a world of difference.

You could alter the Vernon method by using a Zarrow shuffle, depending on what you are more comfortable using.

There are loads of variations on this effect, but the original is clear in effect, it isn't slowed down or muddled by extra shuffles and displays.

As FTHO as said most methods to acomplish this trick don't require a faro shuffle. I would also suggest you read my comment on your other recent topic on regards to your card magic.

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic46372.php

Hi Anjorno. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my posts but you are misunderstanding my meanings and intentions. I am
a reasonably accomplished magician who earns a few bob from close up magic, restaurant work, parties, weddings etc. I am
writing this just having finished a 4 hour Mothers Day stint in a local restaurant. I am happy with the range of sleights I have
and use and don't particularly feel the need to get in to over complicated sleights and certainly don' t do flourishes and all the
tricky stuff magic geeks spend hours learning. Personally I think excessive manipulation of the cards just makes you look a
smart *rse without demonstrating any real magic skills. Performance is the secret to any trick not how many times you can false cut a deck one handed.

The two queries I have posted recently relate to a sleight and an effect that I am looking for a good learning source for. The
change is one James Brown uses in a routine I would like to be able to use and the Triumph effect is something I just haven't
got round to learning yet. I do a Triumph but use a gaffed deck so not all that clever. My mistake in thinking a Faro was needed
came from watching the trick performed on You Tube, something I am old enough to know better than to do!

I am not looking to be told how to do anything. Anyone who does that on here quite rightly gets a swift flea in the ear. When I
ask a question it is only to be pointed to a source of information which I am quite prepared to buy and learn from.

Well as i said, apologies. As for the sleight used by James Brown, it's called a snap change.
it was created by Edward Marlo and I would suggest his book The Card Magic of Edward Marlo. it's not the cheapest of books but but when i bought it years ago it had alot of clever ideas including the snap change. But that's just my opinion.

There is a nice version in Mark Wilson that doesn't use a faro, Slip Slop Shuffle I think it might be called (I've not got the book at hand right now so it might be called something totally different).

It's also taught on the Michael Ammar card miracles DVD - vol 1 if I remember correctly, but certainly one of the first 6 (as I don't have the others).

Ian

Lady of Mystery wrote:There is a nice version in Mark Wilson that doesn't use a faro, Slip Slop Shuffle I think it might be called (I've not got the book at hand right now so it might be called something totally different).

Thank you Lady of Mystery. When will I ever learn, if it ain't in Mark Wilson it is proably not wort doing. Self reversing pack page 144. Spot on

If I ever need something, Mark Wilson is the first place I look. I'm still amazed by some of the ideas that I stumble across in there.