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how you like this jumping gemini

Postby S147 » May 30th, '06, 22:59



Hey,
i tried to make the first part of this trick a better way than you usually see.

http://media.putfile.com/Jumping-Gemini-43


Please give me some comments or tell me if i can do something better.

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Postby AJ82 » May 30th, '06, 23:03

could not link to work or save, got this message

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Postby S147 » May 30th, '06, 23:04

ok its working now

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Postby dat8962 » May 30th, '06, 23:12

The syntax in the link appears to be wrong above.

If you edit and test in preview mode - I think that you need to remove the url= bit in the brackets before the http:

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Postby S147 » May 30th, '06, 23:14

i tried now and its working
but heres the link again

http://media.putfile.com/Jumping-Gemini-43

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Postby Demitri » May 30th, '06, 23:19

This is a good start. This is one of my favorite effects of all time, and I always love seeing variations on the methods.

There are a few things you need to work on for this effect. In my opinon, the two most important aspects of this effect are:

Consistency
Fluid movement

Some people like to perform this at a breakneck pace - with quick moves, quick revelations. Others like to play it out a bit more slowly. Either method works when handled properly - so this is personal choice. Regardless of the speed at which you perform, you have to keep your moves fluid, and above all - consistent.

If you turn over the first card one way - that's how you should turn it over every time. Changes to HOW you turn a card can look suspicious. Go back and watch your handling. You switch methods in a few spots. Pick one style and work with that throughout the routine. This helps build the consistency portion of the effect.

As you're practicing that, it automatically assists you with the fluidity of movement. Since the moves are the same, you can focus on making them clean and effortless.

Now, to more specific aspects. I like the idea of your first move - but I don't think it's a powerful enough alternative. While your addition works, the method seems impractical (to me). You show the 2 on the bottom, then reverse count it to the top - only to put it back on the bottom again. To me, it seems unnecessary.

One thing to work on - when turning over d's - a dead giveaway is to do what you're doing with the left hand. You're turning your wrist inward, which serves no real purpose (except to make EVERYTHING look abnormal - and therefore suspicious), while at the same time, you appear to be CRAMMING that card on top of the packet. When doing these moves, try not to turn your wrist inward so much (you can do it a little, but the excess movement here draws too much attention). And allow the card to fall on its' own. So long as you keep the cards squared against your fingers, nothing will flash. Be mindful of your d's - but don't be a slave to them.

The four 10's section - About the only comments would be the same as above. Be more willing to let go of the cards a bit. Forced action is not something you want to show. Your actual display of the 10's was nicely done.

For the reveal of the kings - the biggest standout is that you look as if you're fiddling with the cards before you start to turn them over. This is another giveaway. I have a way to help you avoid this "get ready" problem - but pm me for exposure purposes. The display and method behind your reveal of the kings leads me to think you haven't learned this effect from the original handling. Your method does work, but it loses a bit of the elegance from the original Ortiz handling. (I'm not saying the Ortiz handling is the catch-all, but it's best to learn the original and then adapt it to your style once you know the mechanics). I suggest looking up the original effect, as well as looking up resources to learn the gemini count.

Please don't take my comments in a bad way. You have an excellent foundation here, all you need to do (as we all do) is iron out the kinks and make it perfect. Excellent video! Keep up the good work.

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Postby requiemfad » May 31st, '06, 04:22

Let the double drop. Its alot more natural. And I dont really get what youre doing for the first part. You lift a double or triple, you put the card on the table, and you put the next top card at the bottom? The spectator assumes that the 2 of hearts is on the table, why did you put the top card at the bottom again?

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Postby Demitri » May 31st, '06, 04:32

The effect makes more sense when there is patter. Basically, the magician talks about how the 2 keeps jumping to the top of the packet, no matter where you place it. That's the motivation behind all the movements.

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Postby Mydas » Jun 18th, '06, 11:20

Be a little more loose, man. When you have a double/triple in your hand and put it on the card(s) below it -- instead of dropping it -- the tension of your movement (trying to hold 2/3 cards as one near the end of the movement) tends to make you look very suspicious. Try to block pushoff, reveal, and drop from around 90 degrees (with a small impulse from your hand).

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Postby magic_evmeister » Jun 22nd, '06, 02:03

I thought that this video could've done with patter. The Jumping Gemini trick will make no sense to anyone who doesn't already know it without patter. I think it was generally well performed but I also agree that your reveal of the kings was a real low-point of the video as it looked awkward and kinda fidgity. Don't let these comments from us discourage you...Demitri is right when he says you have a solid foundation to build upon. Just a bit of practice is required.

Dunno how you go about it presentation wise, but I love Gregory Wilson's presentation which he shares on "Gregory Wilson: In Action Vol 1". It's appropriate, entertaining and most of all FUN TO PERFORM!!!!

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Postby mccabe24 » Aug 24th, '06, 00:29

Aside from your handling, which wasn't horrible but could use a little work, you could improve the effect of this trick on the audiance with one change: Instead of having the kings at the end, use a pair of identical jokers or blank cards. Both of these make the moment where you reveal the last set of cards the high point of the performance (as mentioned before, when you did that it was the low part of the performance). I'm not trying to discourage you or anything, but keep practicing and try adding a new twist to the end.

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Postby marc0 » Sep 12th, '06, 18:43

I like the jumping gemini. its one of my favourit tricks.
my best part is when u use the geminu count and let them show ur kings or jokers. i like to see them faces =)

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Postby missed it » Sep 12th, '06, 18:48

requiemfad wrote:Let the double drop. Its alot more natural. And I dont really get what youre doing for the first part. You lift a double or triple, you put the card on the table, and you put the next top card at the bottom? The spectator assumes that the 2 of hearts is on the table, why did you put the top card at the bottom again?

ya i think you should have left it alone

nice tho :wink:

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