talkmagic.co.uk

I am totally, TOTALLY lost on this one guys. In my book it says that you must leave the bottom card at the bottom, but how is that possible when doing the hindu shuffle ? these are the first 2 instructions.

1. Suppose you want to "force" the five of diamonds. Place the five on the bottom of the pack. Start the usual hindu shuffle, telling the spectator to call "stop" at any time he wants.

2. Continue the shuffle at the usual speed, pulling packets from the TOP of the cards in the right hand. This leaves the five of diamonds at the BOTTOM of the right-hand cards.

I don't understand, please help

Sorry if its hard to understand but it's hard to explain

The thing whats annoying me the most is the second instruction.

"pulling packets from the TOP of the cards in the right hand. This leaves the five of diamonds at the BOTTOM of the right-hand cards".

I don't understand that bit.

well the instructions seem pretty clear to me... you do know what a hindu shuffle looks like i assume?

Yes yes, i've been practicing it for the past 2 days and i can do it pretty well.

Hey

All the second instruction tells you is to take the cards from the top when performing the hindu shuffle, so the bottom card will remain the same. This means the spec. can say stop then you can just turn the packet left in your left hand [(that is if you right handed) - Its the packet you have been taking the cards from and it is the one with the 5D on the bottom] then you can show the spec. the 5D, and they will not have a clue that you just forced that card on them.

Hope this helps

Yes that kinda helped, i don't suppose you know of a website which actually shows this

Wait a minute, how can the 5 of diamonds be at the bottom of the right hand pack ?

Well you are holding the deck in your right hand to start with yes? And the 5D is on the bottom, and you are holding the deck face down... actually I will just pm you I think. I think I might know where you are going wrong...

Let's see if these instructions help (this is assuming you are right-handed, else just change right for left and vice versa):

1) Have the 5D on the bottom of the pack.
2) Hold the pack in your left hand in dealing position (mechanic's grip)
3) Take the whole pack with the right hand, your right hand's thumb and middle finger on the long sides of the pack and your index finger resting on the top of the pack.
4) With your hands in this position, pull the pack with your right hand towards you while your left hand's fingers grip a small packet of cards from the top of the pack. Pull the pack out until the top packet of cards clear the rest of the deck and falls into your left palm.
5) Keep doing it until the spectator calls stop.
6) Then raise show the bottom card of the packet of cards in your right hand to the spectator. It would be the 5D.

Ok if that is still unclear : http://web.superb.net/cardtric/sleights/hindu.htm

Please delete if this post is inappropriate. I though that since others are already talking about the move so openly, it'll be ok to just post this up...

So really alls u do is turn the pack over to show the 5 of diamonds ?

YES

Be wary of using this shuffle as a control when performing in front of an indian. Not a racist comment, merely an observation.
Many do use this shuffle more than the overhand for playing cards.
Occasionally legitimately too I don't doubt, but then you can't really trust an overhand either

I showed a trick to an Asian guy at work and he was saying he knew what was going on.
I asked if he used the shuffle.
Yes.
I asked if he did card magic.
No.
So, do you play cards with this shuffle then?
A more cautious, Er...Yes.
Hmm, just so I know I'm not the only one here to watch out for if there's a card game going on *cheesey grin*

His look was a subtle blend of very knowing, very busted and priceless. A hint of a similar grin too I believe.

It's only good for me, it forces me to come up with more ingenious ways of baffling him amongst others and to keep using different methods all the time. He hasn't caught my overhand yet and now he always gets to cut the pack lol. In my hands though One ahead and all that.

I'm Korean and Hindu shuffle is the way I was originally taught how to shuffle. I was baffled when I saw this particular force because I didn't think anyone would fall for it, but my friends being primarily from Canada and Europe didn't catch it... but I've only used this force once to them. If you want to use a force using a shuffle, I'd recommend the overhand-lift shuffle force or similarly, the hindu-lift shuffle force (I do not know the correct name.) I think the latter is much easier.