Palming poker size cards with very small hands

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Palming poker size cards with very small hands

Postby Richard86 » May 16th, '07, 16:55



I've recently been practising the Top Palm. However, I have a big problem. When I hold a poker size card in the palm position, the card juts out about 2 mm from the side of my index finger.
I noticed that on page 11 in Card College Volume 1 Giobbi states that bridge- and poker size cards are equally easy to palm independent of hand size. He also says that the determining factor is technique.
I just can't see how that's true if the card juts out from one side.

Is my only option to use Bridge sized cards or is there anyone else here who has extremely small hands but still manage to get away with the palm?

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Postby Lady of Mystery » May 16th, '07, 17:14

I've got small hands and also find that from time to time I get a little bit of card jutting out. I've found three things that have helped me with it.

Misdirection, keep the spectator chatting and their attention off your hands

If you have an overlap, try to position the card so that the overlap is at the little finger. If you tilt the hand slightly, little finger down I find this can give some cover.

And the last thing is practice. The more you do it, the easier you'll find it gets.

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Postby seige » May 16th, '07, 17:15

There are more than 1 ways to palm a card...

And hand size is irrelevant if you choose the one that suits.

(Although I guess Beadle may struggle with a gambler's cop)

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Postby Lady of Mystery » May 16th, '07, 17:20

seige wrote:(Although I guess Beadle may struggle with a gambler's cop)


Although on the other hand..... :lol:

Sorry but that joke makes me laugh eevrytime I hear it, sad I know :roll: :D

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Postby monker59 » May 16th, '07, 18:01

If a normal palm does not work for your hands, there are several more palms out there that you can learn that will be better suited to you. Royal Road to Card Magic should have some good ones.

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Postby Wills » May 16th, '07, 22:43

Lady of Mystery wrote:
seige wrote:(Although I guess Beadle may struggle with a gambler's cop)


Although on the other hand..... :lol:

Sorry but that joke makes me laugh eevrytime I hear it, sad I know :roll: :D


ha ha ha I laugh at this everytime as well, ah it takes little to amuse the innoccent. I remember the first time I heard it I nearly wet myself

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Postby Johnny Wizz » May 18th, '07, 14:56

I have small hands for a man and I was equally uncertain that I could ever carry off a convincing palm.

I also asked this question somewhere on here in the dim and distant pass and got the same answers that you are getting now.

Believe me, these guys are right. You can palm a poker sized card quite succesfully but as Lady O M says its all down to practice. And in that respect it is the same as all other sleights.

What I find is that to see that tiny overlap the spectator has to be looking for it. Apart from misdirection, which helps a lot, spectators of the non magic kind are not looking for it. They don't know what you are going to do, they don't know how you are going to finish it.

For example I have a modified Ambitious Card that I finish with a flurry of reappearances through slip cuts, false shuffles and false cuts. I do them quickly and it looks as though I might just have several of the chosen card in the pack.

So my final patter having the card forced to the top is

"So it would of course be easier if I had more than one blank of blanks in the pack. How many do you think I might have?" As I say this I top palm the card, wave the deck out wide with my let hand, give it the spectator and sask him to count how many cards of the chosen one her can find.

By the time he has concluded, with other spectators watching that actually there are non in the pack I have the card away somewhere (depends on situation) to reappeaar it from.

Nobody looks at the right hand because nobody would even think that I was taking a card out.

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Postby monker59 » May 18th, '07, 22:03

Also, you might want to try using bridge-sized cards for a little while. Once you're comfortable performing sleights with those cards, move up to the poker-sized ones.

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Postby mallmagician » May 21st, '07, 13:15

seige wrote:There are more than 1 ways to palm a card...

And hand size is irrelevant if you choose the one that suits.

(Although I guess Beadle may struggle with a gambler's cop)


Careful guys! When I worked for "Magic For All Occasions" a magic shop in cheshire. Jeremy Beadle ordered a catalogue and bought a few things from us.

Maybe you are aware he is into magic. But just incase!! He may be reading!

Watch Out! Beadles About!

:) Phil

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