ID Presentation...

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ID Presentation...

Postby B0bbY_CaT » Apr 18th, '06, 05:24



I got my ID about a week ago and must say it is fantastic! i contemplated Brainwave vs Invisible and after reading reviews and comparisions i decided the INV deck was the way to go... although i am sure they are both good.

i have come up with a routine that i imagine many of you have tried before but wanted to share with any "new'ish" to magic people such as myself.

write the word "grey" on a small pce of paper and put it in your left pocket. write the word "orange" on a small pce of paper and put it in your right pocket. begin with the cards in yr pocket. not visible. and ask the spectator... "do you know what MIND MANIPULATION BY WORD ASSOCIATION IS?"

most people will think for a moment before answering "yeah, kind of..."

so you give a few examples, "name a single continent so big it is in both the southern and northern hemisphere starting with A". then ask "now name an animal that starts with E". and finally ask "quick! name a color?"

9/10 people will hv answered Africa, Elephant, and Grey. for some reason, most people who try and mess up yr routine will say "orange"... not sure why. anyway, it doesn't matter because if someone says grey or orange you show the appropriate note, and if some says an alternative color you simply say "perfect"... that is what i mean by mind control, i lead you down the path of saying "purple". that is mind control by word manipulation!

OK, now you produce your deck of cards, and as you do, start by saying "lets see if we can do something a little more challenging" and you talk about how it is SO VERY important they co-operate as they open their "ID". it is important here you ensure realisim. "look at my real deck on the table, now open the box of the ID the same way you would need to open the box of my real deck... etc... of course they drop a card and you pick it up for them, try and steal a glimpse of their cards as they arrange them etc... and so on..." keep chatting while this is going on because it creates more and more believability in the "word association theory". i sometimes even use a few words that rhyme with numbers or suits in the deck "emphasizing" them as i say them to add a little comedy plus some additional consideration from the specator i may in fact be really trying to influence their card choice.

finally they are astounded at the fact the "ONLY" card turned over in your real deck is the card they freely chose.

in other words, the mind control preamble gets the spectator(s) mind so totally off a gaffed deck and onto the mind manipulation issue. it's great because i find NO ONE even asks to see the deck... it's not relavent because they are totally focused on what it was i said that influenced them to select the "7 of diamonds"...

make sure when another spectator says "ok, now try me", you leave the room to allow you to "turn over a different card in your deck" before performing the trick for them.

hope this helps, i really enjoy this deck and would enjoy any alternative ideas, plus any other products/decks you may feel a fan of the ID would enjoy.

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Postby EckoZero » Apr 18th, '06, 05:29

I like it.
Theres a few more ideas for ID/brainwave deck.

And both of them have their strong points.
They're fairly cheap so you could always have both, and then use them as the mood takes you.

If you want anymore ideas on Invisible/Brainwave deck then feel free to PM me mate

You wont find much better anywhere and it's nothing - a rigmarole with a few bits of paper and lots of spiel. That is Mentalism

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