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If you need a card bending effect and willing to perform it, you will love this. Please don't get it just for the method.

Also;

E wrote:You.
Don't.
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is wrong. Yes, you touch the card.

I love this effect and think everyone should buy it as I feel it is so strong.

What can be better than finding a specs card showing it to them then using only the power of your mind bending the card.

Great effect

Dean

I didn't buy the download granted, but the mindbender looks like a bunch of bullspit to me.

And am I wrong or does the magician in the demo give away the trick with a nervious "fruedianesque" tick. Seriously, does that guy play poker? I want in on that game.

Take notice of how ellusionist sells the hell out of this trick, You'll have to work hard selling the hell out of this trick to just keep the audiance from walking away while your doing it. I've gotten the cards pretty seriously bent (using what I assume is the mindbender technique) and as fast (if you can call it fast) as on the demo, for a few people to a response of "oh, yeah, it's bending I see. ...whatever."

oh, well, I guess if you want to pay $17 for something to do with your beat up cards...

I've not bought the video but know the technique and I have to say that I would feel pretty disapointed to shell out for this.

I agree that the reactions a pretty unspectacular.

Well if you think this, it is very sad for you. One of the job of the magician IS selling the effect (I'm not talking about ellusionist's selling here...). If people's reaction is only "Oh I see, it's bending", then, I'm sorry mate, you really lack selling talent. 90% of this effect is HOW to perform it so it can shock the spectator. The trick itself might worth only 5bucks but the tips given to knock away the audience is worth well over 12 bucks. I often use this as a climax for the ambitious card routine, great reaction, especially when it bends ON the hand of a spectator...
Oh yeah, do you know how to perform mindbender on the hand of a spectaor and obtain more than a 90degrees bend?

I agree that part of the magicians skill is to present an effect but there are just some effect that don't work no matter what you do. In my opinion this is one of them. The climax isn't worth the wait.

It may be that teenage Blainites etc. are impressed with this effect but in a real world table hopping situation it just doesn't cut it with a general audience.

In this case I think that you need to look at the effect itself and not the skills of a magician. I've seen dozens of very skilled and experienced magicians yet NEVER seen one of them perform this which tells you something.

I'm sure that you too will have effects that you don't rate yet other magicians will say "you're kidding - it's a wonderful trick". I don;t think that's a sad thing either.

This effect is OK, but does not live up to the hype. It simply is not that special and a precursor to "jiffybag rage" if you paid for it. lol

I personally think this is a nice little curio that one should find tucked away in a book, but not marketed as a separate effect.

I do use the effect, but only occsionally and only in the right mood. ie if I created a wierd metal-bending / PK atmosphere. But not as anykind of focal point to any routine.

JH

Hey Durto, I imagine I could also go around selling the heck out of "which hand is the coin in?" and "I got your nose" but I perfer my magic not to suck, "mate".

I suppose I too could get mindbender to a 90 degree angle on the back of someone else's hand but I've found audiances in the YMCA sauna too grabby.

Really, 90 degrees? Considering the guy that invented mindbender cant seem to get it past 50 maybe you should be selling it for Ellusionist instead of just shilling for them.

I know that I shouldn't ask Rich - exposure and all that, but what hand is the coin really in?

Lol, very funny Rich...
First thing first: It is really easy to achieve a 90degrees bend at the end of the routine. The teaching videos teach you some things you don't see in the demo.
2: There is other types of situation then Table hopping or beeing a Blainite, some of them are perfect for mindbending but I understand that it couldn't fit with professional magic where you have few minutes to impress an audience. Still, there is time where mindbender is great
3: Never seen a skilled and profesionnal magician performing it isn't really a great method to tell what's great and bad... Else why bother look for other effects? Just stick to your Blaine's tapes and copy what we do, you'll be a great magician too!
4: In the right hand (heck with exposure)

Oooh, sorry guys, so close but no. The coin was in neither hand. My "which hand is the coin in" uses a little sleight my dad taught me when I was 8 that it now seems Ellusionist invented and calls "Revolution".

And is there any truth to the rumor that Ellusionist is also in the prossess of packaging "I got your nose" as a 'powerful' illusion called "Pinoccio's Revenge"? ...seriously, I heard that somewhere.

I was taught "Pinoccio's Revenge" by a madman I met in Bangladesh who said the illusion came to him in a dream...twwaaa. It will make you change the way you think of magic...twwaaa" -David Blaiine

So, mindbender is totally impromtu and has no gimmicks?

If so, I might get it soon. I'm still running through the explanations for that trick in my head...

in my opinion its worth the money, it does create an odd effect if performed well...i've used it a few times, even with a tarot card, it just depends on how you use it and why...

p.k. demo, spiritual contact, so on and so on...

alot of methods are 'easy', but if it was really that easy, you would of come up with it yourself eh...(not aimed at anyone, just a thought)...

Well I agree first that if just pull of the trick without any given specific presentation, it would a downer. It is true, I did it on my brother, and he just got so bored, becaus it took so long time with bending.... I saw that he wsnt so impressed and his only comment was:
"You did something with the card".

Now in other hand, I was at a local magic shop and the owner showed me some rubberband tricks etc... and then he ask me, if i could show some trick. I didnt have anything with me, but he had this deck of cards. I thought that I would give it a try. I didnt tell any presentation at all. Now this guy thought it was a "cool" trick. But he didnt understand anything. I saw that he just watch me, carefully and comment that the card started to bend. I know that this time it hit.

My point is that, like all magic, it dont hit everyone. Some people just need to hear a presentation to get it down into there minds, whilse some just dont really care but loves to watch magic anyway.

i own this DVD. i have used the effect on playing cards, and i also have great fun doing it with business cards. no one i have presented it to has any idea of the method. those of you who dont own the DVD may be misunderstanding the method or simply not getting the nuances of the presentation if your reactions are poor.

i would say that the teaching on the DVD by Justin Miller is "mumbly" at best. it seems like he decided in advance "i dont want this to seem professionally scripted"... it sure doesn't!

however the effect is good, the method while simple is clever and i am happy i bought it, less than US$20 is good value for money given the number of times i have performed this one.