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I got my book yesterday, Royal Road To Magic... and the injog is giving me alot of trouble. Everytime i try to jog the card my pinky automatically pushes the card back into the deck when i try to continue my shuffle. Any ideas on how to solve this ? Thanks

slide the cards off the pack with your thumb and keep your fingers together so there is no way you can get your pinky in the way

Wow thats spooky I was just practising a trick in Paul Zenon's street magic book (Jack Sandwich) and it mentions injogs and outjogs and was going to post a message about them cause I didn't really understand the significance of them

yeah just pick up about half the deck and draw one card down and in about a cm...then continue drawing a few cards straight down with your thumb and continue the shuffle...i dont see where you pinky would be giving you a problem...it should be on the back of the card packet that is in your left hand (if right handed)...and the packet your lifting you shouldnt even use your pinky...i just use my 2nd and 3rd fingers


hope that helps

..and is clear as mud

the trick is to make it look like a messy shuffle so they dont notice the one card sticking out of the other perfectly aligned cards

A couple more questions:

In the picture in the book they have it where the jogged card is in the middle of the deck. Is that because it is reshuffled after its jogged? Mine always is at the bottom of the deck, just like in the run.

Also arent you supposed to keep your pinky on the face of the jogged card? This is from the book.

" Little finger under the jogged card, forefinger at the corner at the other end "

Thats why my pinky is getting screwed up because its on the face of the card. Are you guys saying you dont need the pinky there? Arent you supposed to keep physical contact with that specific card to know where it is ?

Arent you supposed to keep physical contact with that specific card to know where it is ?

well the fact that its sticking out 1 or 2 cm from the deck usually sorts out that problem

and to answer your other question the injog can be used to help with returning the pack to its origional order after a shuffle with only one cut not just locating one card

dcp303 wrote:In the picture in the book they have it where the jogged card is in the middle of the deck

its in the middle of the deck because-you hold the deck in shuffle position and lift about half then jog the card and shuffle the rest on top of the jog...the jog is now in the middle...now you cut at the jog and the original top card is at top again

dcp303 wrote:Mine always is at the bottom of the deck

like said above, the jog should be somewhere in the middle

dcp303 wrote:Also arent you supposed to keep your pinky on the face of the jogged card?

never heard of this...the pinky should just be on the bottom of the deck..

dcp303 wrote:Arent you supposed to keep physical contact with that specific card to know where it is ?

the whole point of the jog is so you know where the card is..the original top card is the card after the jog..no contact with the jog is needed because you just cut under the jog and put the block on top

hope this helps...

I am also of the "untidy shuffle" school. I find that if I am using the injog to control a card, after the card has been put on the pack I square it and then injog and shuffle the rest fairly clumsilly. I did that by accident when I started, I am now a bit more controlled with my untidyness. But it does mean I can leave a fairly prominent jog well covered. And I don't need to look at all to find it for cutting the deck. But like everything its just a matter of what suites you.

Also, and please don't take this the wrong way, you say you only got the book yesterday. In my experience this whole card magic thing takes a bit longer than 24 hours to perfect. Practice, practice, practice some more and then practice again. That is the real secret. Sorry, there isnn't any easy way.

The easiest way to describe how to use the injog properly is to think of the pinky as 'holding the short end of the deck square'.

I start my overhand shuffle by placing a decent block of cards down, and 'rest' them against the pinky at the inner short edge, using the pinky as stop.

The next injogged packed extends AT LEAST 1 inch over the rest! and the rest of the shuffle varies by +or- 1/2 inch around that.

This gives PERFECT justification for you squaring up the cards and transferring the break to the deck.

Using this method of overshooting the pinky is very reliable. The injogged card literally sits on top of my pinky-tip.

As stated—practice practice practice.

thanks seige that helped alot. lol a couple more questions... sry this thing is giving me hell to get right.

Is it neccaccery to use that left thumb to slide the card off? When i do this i always almost find that i have to use my left middle , and ring finger to bring it down all the way. Is this because im holding the right packet too tightly?

Also i kind of find it more natural to not use that left thumb at all. Does anyone do this ? Thanks.

When bringing the right hand packet down to strip cards off, bring it down at about 45 degrees to the lower packet in the left hand. Then, the thumb should grab the long edge of a few cards as the right hand withdraws.

The position of the upper half should be such that the bottom long edge coming down first travels all the way to the left hand side of the bottom packet in your left hand.

I hope this makes sense!

I found that although RRTCM says to rest the injogged card above your pinky, my hands aren't big enough to place my pinky in that position comfortably.. maybe I'm doing the overhand shuffle wrong haha.. but like everyone's saying, as long as you can locate the injog after the rest has been shuffled off (a bit messily like people have been saying), you should be okay. About 1-1.5 cm should do the trick