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Here it is at long last - I lost count of how many takes to get this onto video

I kept having problems with the consistency of the Elmsley.

Anyway, Enjoy.

http://media.putfile.com/Queens-Out-Of-Control-97

Very nice! Yet another quality video from Dat aka Dave Taylor!

I saw nothing wrong with your Elmsley. It is a difficult routine to make enjoyable even with patter, and yet you did it superbly here.

Again I must congratulate you on another top-notch video.

I'm actually really confused!! Yes I found that it was a superb performance, but why are there 9 cards in the end? Is that part of the effect?

Steve

Great work, Dave. I think I know why you had trouble with the EC. It's not your handling. I find the cards for that effect to be of slightly lower quality than say a Bicycle - and the finish is a bit different. At least for me, after a few counts, the cards begin to drag a bit. Is that what the problem was for you?

Bear in mind - while you think there were inconsistencies - your handling was superb. No audience would have spotted any funny business.

Stevebo, the answer is yes! ending up with 9 cards is part of the effect.

Demitri, I hadn't thought of the card quality and I think that you've hit the nail on the head. I'm waiting for the USPCC to bring out a 5th colour backed bike deck so that I can add to the green, blue, red and black to make up a bike set of cards for this effect. I wait in hope

Thanks for all of the encouraging comments.

Routine and everything was nice. Your EC was nice also. Although in one of the counts from what I could remember watching, it wasn't perfect like the others. Otherwise, the rest were perfect.

For the EC, I find that, rather than the side count (pull off to side), the top count is more effecient (pull off to top) ((not their proper names I think but whatever)) but it might be a bit harder to pull off. Inperfections in the EC done through the top one is still almost invisible. Hard to explain and I haven't gotten my new phone yet to do recordings but I hope you sort of understand what I mean.

Anyways, keep up the good work.

Woah!
This routine really brings kicker after kicker! Greatly performed! Jammed-packed with emsley counts, wich are still great. Keep it up! I can only imagine the kind of presentation you can perform with this routine live (speech...)

Wow fantastic trick, I totaly did not expect that ending

Dave, let me say first that I really don't like this effect for a whole range of reasons, the jam packed full of elmsleys being one of them. However, your handling was very very nice. Your elmsleys were consistant and at a very nice pace.

If you up for constructive critisism, my only comment would be regarding your get ready on the elmsley. It doesn't look natural. I'd be interested in where you learned the get ready. Other than that, you got smooth hands, Mr Taylor.

Many thanks

The get ready for the EC is sort of my adaptation and I've not really noted this myself before, until now. Amazing what a video can reveal

If I'm doing the EC with Bikes then it's different and I can only think of what was said earlier about the quality of the cards not being up to much aster a few handlings. They definately do get sticky and I can only think that I do the 'get ready' in this video subconsciously to avoid revealing.

It's an effect that I like a lot but I don;t like the original patter that comes with the routine but I haven't yet got around to developing anything new. It's an effect that I find the specs like and they seem to concentrate more on the cards than the patter, perhaps trying to spot how it works

dat8962 wrote:The get ready for the EC is sort of my adaptation and I've not really noted this myself before, until now. Amazing what a video can reveal

Yeah, thats why I video everything now!!!

dat8962 wrote: but I don;t like the original patter that comes with the routine

That would be the second reason I don't like it, and here comes a third.

dat8962 wrote: It's an effect that I find the specs like and they seem to concentrate more on the cards than the patter, perhaps trying to spot how it works

Which is double trouble because its elmsley heavy.

Don't take my comments the wrong way Dave, I really do admire your presentation; I just have a problem with the effect. Thanks again for a great video, although I do miss the discussion points section as first seen your rope routine.

Thanks

I always take comments in the ay that they're given and I really do appreciate it when people take the time to explain in depth. If we don't use feedback then we don't progress.

I understand ALL of your points as to why you don't like this routine and I can't argue against any of them. It's one of the joys and wonders of magic to me that we can find the same issues but one of us still likes whilst the other doesn't.

As for the discussion points, with the card effects they would end up longer than the effects themselves . However, I've come to find too many problems with the rope videos although I may be slightly over self-critical but I've decided to re-record them all again from scratch and to add a few newer routines that I've not recorded before. For these I will return to also posting an intro and I will be filming all of them outside in local tourist attractions to give them a little more intertest.

Watch this space

Agreed!

Look forward to more videos from you Dave!

First of all the video quality is very good (took some time to buffer:). The effect is nice but the trick lasts too long so it kinda makes it a bit boring. As fo the performance: Maybe I'm too harsh, but these elmsleys are very weird. Like someone said earlier on the get ready makes it very suspicious. Looks fine to laymen but some of us would probably like to see it done perfectly. I don't use Bikes at all because I can't buy them in Croatia (and I don't like on-line shopping bla bla) so I can't tell if they are the reason for your weird Elmsley. What I can tell is you have to chane the technique a bit. Like bitsnpieces said instead of pushing the first card to side, push it to top (diagonally to the top left corner of the packet), slightly rub it against the other three cards and leave your left forefinger on the remaining pack to keep it flush. That way you don't need a get ready and it looks better.

I got confused...
All very well performed....
but the effect lost me and i spent half the time trying to work out what you were trying to do...
And the fact you end with an extra card makes it more suspicious.
I`m sure even a layperson would start to think hold on that is an extra card was that hidden all the time??

The handling was very well performed but the effect does`nt make any sense to me....i would pass on this.