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I heard also that there were kosher pigs and that people in Israel were breeding them for this purpose. Personally I think this story is on the same level as the one that says pigs might fly.

TonyB wrote:You heard a zipper, you didn't see it. So how do you know it was a zipper? A cricket sounds very similar. So do lots of things. One thing we know, a zipper doesn't go up and down on its own.

Good question. I guess I just have faith that I don't go through life confusing sounds that I give a lot less attention to than I did that zipper at the time. And the sound was next to the bed, not outside in the grass. And crickets sound more like cicadas than zippers (advantage of a rural upbringing).

TonyB wrote: the record I am a proud atheist, and becoming more and more vocal about it. We are the second largest faith group in Ireland at the moment, and rapidly catching up.

Evangelical Atheism. Go into the world and preach the good news of... nothing

The way I look at it, if two people are born at the same moment and die at the same moment eighty years later; one lived a conservative life, always doing what was expected, wearing a suit and tie, etc; and the other guy was a tie dyed in the wall hippie. They both reach the last five seconds and looked back... all that matters is that they lived the lives that they wanted and enter eternity as the masterpiece of their own design.

Although there are no kosher, or halal, pigs, I was in the UAE, and I got a full fry for breakfast. The sausage and rasher were both from turkeys.

Arle, I don't believe in eternity, but I love the way you put it: all that matters is that they lived the lives that they wanted and enter eternity as the masterpiece of their own design.
What an epitaph.

TonyB wrote:Although there are no kosher, or halal, pigs, I was in the UAE, and I got a full fry for breakfast. The sausage and rasher were both from turkeys.

Arle, I don't believe in eternity, but I love the way you put it: all that matters is that they lived the lives that they wanted and enter eternity as the masterpiece of their own design.
What an epitaph.

Indeed. If only more people lived the lives they wanted.

mark lewis wrote:I heard also that there were kosher pigs and that people in Israel were breeding them for this purpose. Personally I think this story is on the same level as the one that says pigs might fly.

The babirussa has been declared kosher because they chew the cud. Not that anybody in particular breeds them, except zoos.

However, recent genetic research has proven that the babirussa is in fact an extremely primitive deer, not a pig. It's just beyond the point at which pigs began to evolve into deer.

There are in fact a lot of pigs in Israel, bred for sale to gentiles and secular Jews. They're required to be kept on special pallet flooring so they never defile the ground of Israel by walking on it.

A book called The White Book has recently been published. It's the first ever Israeli pork cookbook, and apparently is selling well.