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I am in total agreement with Seige, the plea for respect just makes people lose it. Is that really magic what you did, Blaine is Blaine, you are you. People would probably enjoy a nice card or other magic video. It really worries me that young people believe that have to learn this to earn respect or be a magician. There is a big difference with doing something as dangerous as this than doing say knife thru arm.

Best of luck with your magic and i look forward to seeing a magic video from you soon.

ok ok
I Fu**Ed it Up
but
I'm planing a big vanish ( asctully its really dangoures)

PS. You look psychotically happy when you took out the hammer. Scary...

lets just say
that I'm a piro, I like To Brake things, and I like to get hurt (I'm a Jackass show kind of guy)
now if you know the video by Thomas medilina Geek magic
youll know that this comes from there
and by the name of the video Geek magic
I think this is concedered as a magic trick
so don't know
I messed it up
but I'm going to fix things
and
I would like to open a topic about my vanish
but I don't want everyone to see it
so mods help please

You do know that effects on Geek magic should only be attempted by over 18s. I think i know what you have planned and PLEASE be very careful. No one wants to see you get hurt

lol
but I didn't say what I planed

I could get hurt
but
not if I do it right

by the way when I bought geek magic no one told me that I have to be 18 years old

Danger is not my style of magic I like the less risky card / money / sponge ball magic. I respect you for doing magic, it takes dedication and skill (like many other things) I don't respect you for asking for respect. It is something that needs to be earnt, not begged for. I am quite new to this forum and I don't know how much respect I have and I don't mind. I enjoy magic and for me that is mainly cards. I will earn respect when I do and not before. I don't mind if this is in 1 hour, 1 year or never because I am happy as me doing what I enjoy. The other thing I don't respect you for is the comments such as

I'm planing a big vanish ( asctully its really dangoures)

I don't believe people should get respect just for doing something dangerous. I believe you would get the respect for the trick being done well (dangerous or not). Just my opinion.

Losts of people have asked was it real glass? Was it?

I look forward to seeing your vanish if you make it public.

Remember one thing... Be yourself. You are good and dedicated. That will earn you more respect than anything in my eyes.

Alex

The Effect
You’ve heard of people with uncanny, unimaginable abilities. Personalities like Serpentina the snake charmer, Wee Willie the 400 pound fat boy, Bobo the human pin cushion and Tessie the Tattooed Woman. Imagine joining their ranks and performing the following feats of bizzareism:

* Swallow and Maninpulate Razor Blades
* Produce Live Bugs
* Become a Human Spittoon
* Ingest an Inflated Balloon
* Drink Motor Oil
* Chew on Broken Glass
* And Much More!


These Stunts - to name but a few - are explained in excruciating (and often far too great) detail on Tomas Medina’s Geek Magic DVD. This magic is not intended for the faint of heart - or stomach.

It’s all alive, on film, for your viewing and learning pleasure: on the inside!

WARNING: This DVD is not suitable for anyone under the age of 18. Performances and explanations are for entertainment and informational purposes only. Buyer assumes full responsibility and shall not hold the producers, performers, or any other parties involved with the production and/or distribution of this DVD responsible for any ill effects resulting from the viewing of this DVD. If you have any doubt in your ability to safely perform the mindless, silly, downright, insane stunts explained herein, DO NOT ATTEMPT THEM.

This was taken from Penguin. You must be pretty rich if you're just buying DVDs without knowing all about them.

I'm not too experienced nor do I have much "respect" in this forum yet, but even so I have to agree with the other posters that something like this won't earn you respect from magicians nor laypeople. Even the Penguin description keeps referring to the effects as stunts. Yes, it may have been achieved via some kind of magical method, but they look more like stunts than magic.

As for the "over 18" thing, it's there for a reason. Age not only gives you experience, it gives you credibility. The advice I keep coming across in mentalism is that one should be 30 or more partly because good mentalism would require the kind of experience and credibility the person's age gives. Look how old Uri Gellar was when he started bending spoons.

More specifically, look how old Criss Angel was when he started doing all these stunts/extreme magic. You looked positively happy throughout the glass eating routine and that spells boastful. You want your audience to think that you are a professional who is doing this to entertain them/"show them the extent of human endurance"/challenge your limits/whatever.

You don't want your audience to think that you're doing all these dangerous/crazy stuff just to appear cool and daring and hopefully they'll respect the fact that a 16 year old who is bright, has a great future ahead of him is trying to kill or injure himself needlessly. They'll more likely be saying, "Stupid kid".

Hey MMI, you're obviously very intelligent. I've seen some of your other videos and you do have talent, but don't get too hasty. The final effect isn't everything. It's the whole performance that really counts. Which is why if you ask the people in the forums for which magic trick they remember the most, they'll be more likely to quote some well-executed card trick or a very elegant coin routine than quote some stunt Criss Angel did.

Just keep in mind that your magic should be audience-oriented, not self-oriented. Listen to what your audience have to say and learn from that.

Ok enough amateurish ranting. Anyway this is strictly my opinion only, so don't feel bad or anything. Take what you think is useful to you and ignore the rest. All the best dude.

PS. I really suggest you read "Strong Magic" by Darwin Ortiz. In it you'll find the reasons why people seem to object to the things you're doing here.

OMG
my DVD isn't Original I payed 50 dollors for it

I didn't see any razor blades



what I ment about really dangoures
is that I need some Top class magicians
to help me on it
not that I'm trying to say that I'm a god or something

Ok, alot of people are taking this trick/effect the wrong way i think, ofcourse he isnt eating glass, I mean come on, if you look closely its not even close to the same color or thickness as the glass he smashed. So to all the people saying he is stupid for trying to eat glass, need to think carefully. I mean you see people like blaine and criss angel swallow razor blades and things to that effect, does it mean they are really swalloing razor blades? We are performing 'illusions' arent we?

I quite enjoyed your vid mini, it dragged on a touch too long but it kept me laughing alot throughout. You have a good personality aswell, Keep it up!

So to all the people saying he is stupid for trying to eat glass, need to think carefully.

Whilst we would generally agree with you, you just NEVER know in this place. You only just need to look at some of the posts that people make to start wondering about the state of their mental health

True, but you can clearly see its not glass, something a little sweeter i would think Everyone has there differant styles too, card/coin magic isnt for everyone. SAW by E is a good example of my point, do people think he is really cutting himself up? Anyway people need to enjoy it for what it is, an illusion.

I think that as a trick on its own it would have been ok, not my style but ok. The part that upset me, and it did upset me is when Mini said...

I'm planing a big vanish ( asctully its really dangoures)

I like to get hurt

I really cut my tounge

thisvideo will show people how Serues I am about magic

its really dangoures I cut my tounge and a peace was in my cheak and one in my finger after I finished filming i went to the meror and found out that a peace of my gum was cut

You don't need to hurt yourself or risk your health to show you are serious about magic.

You seem happy that you got hurt and want to tell everyone about it!

If it was real glass and a bit got stuck inside you, you could die.

Alex

He may have went a bit far with his 'injuries' but it was all an act, he was just trying to make it sound more credible i think. Its common sense not to chew on glass, you would need to be a complete and utter fool to do so, and if your stupid enough to try it then you deserve to get hurt.

Eatable Glass has been used in magic for many decades if not longer, you can make the stuff yourself. Im pretty sure he was just nibbling on bits of green lolly. No big deal, if you all think it was real glass then he sure fooled you.

Do you not think all the stuff he wrote in his posts were maybe part of the act?
It is a sweet stunt but I've always found parkinsons thins to be sweeter

you would need to be a complete and utter fool to do so, and if your stupid enough to try it then you deserve to get hurt.

Or some young child / teenager looking to impress or someone who maybe takes things too literally due to maybe learning differculties.

He's clearly not a child thoe. Im not sure where this thread is headed, if you didnt like the performance, fine say so, but why debate about risks? Risks are part of the package in some types of magic.