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how do you get your parents to get you somthing off the internet. i ask mine if i can order different tricks as soon as i say i can i order they cut in nd say no.

i guess i just gonna have to stick with slieghts.

by the way i am only 13 so i am not a sad old man who lives with his parents.

Okay, this works, alot! For some of this you may actually ened to do it though.

Explain to your parents that you have reserached for several days and have found that the item is best for price and is an effect or whatever that you have wanted and that you can use alot and will not be a piece of garbage that you throw out. Better still is that if you actually do research and find out the ebst site, best price, if it is what you want etc and your parents see you looking through all of this and relaly doing your homework on this product they're going to see that it is something you want so bad that you're willing to give up your own time to find the best deal for it.

Well seeing asthought you wrote all that n i dont understand it worth a try

You don't udnerstand? Look around on different websites for the same magic trick [or whatever you want to buy] make sure your parents see and know that you are looking everywhere about where to get it from and prices etc. When you have found the best deal explain to your parents that you have compared sites and prices and that you really want it blah blah blah and that it is cheaper to get it online and it is goign to be more likely to be available online as magic shops will sell out quickly. Also, [as i live in the same freakin town as you ] i would know there are no magic shops for miles so also mention that it will be alot easier in hte klong run to just buy it off the net!

helo yea i understand n your right our town sucks there no magic shop any were near it. the only magic we can get is that 2 yr old magic sets with wand from woolworths.

Have you thought of joining a magic club?

At least they will see you are serious...perhaps

Oolie the magic fish wrote:helo yea i understand n your right our town sucks there no magic shop any were near it. the only magic we can get is that 2 yr old magic sets with wand from woolworths.

Oolie... I will give you another hint as to dealing with older folks and getting favors... STOP USING INTERNET SHORT HAND IN YOUR POSTS!

I know at 13 this is the new language for all to know but in the real world it's far from it.

Many years ago I had an "old guy" (magician) get onto me about my lazy use of language, how I dressed and acted in public and even my school work and how important it was... I was all of 12 and this man's words sank in deep with me. More important, he became a dear friends and quasi-mentor to me for years... his name was Harry Blackstone and I do believe he lived up to those words, proving to me that living and presenting one's self with said acts of dignity brings to you success in life as well as respect and positive results.

I hope you'll consider this as you work at developing methods for manipulating your parents to get you what you want; by improving who you are, acting with more dignity, intellect and respect they will see that magic is a positive influence on you and thus, become far more willing to help you get the things you need.

You might want to give it a try.

I'm guessing that the items you want aren't likely to be a possibility if you wait until Christmas and/or Birthday so how about making your parents a proposal which they might like? Let them know you'd like to obtain a particular magic item, perhaps show them the website where it's described and, without giving away the secret, tell them how you would appreciate having it and using it. If you can't find words to justify buying it then perhaps it isn't quite the 'must have' which you think it is.

Before asking for the OK you need to offer something in return - household chores are usually a tradeable item. Clean the downstairs windows, mow the lawn, cut the hedge, weed the garden (if you have such things), take the rubbish out, even have a go at vacuuming the carpet etc. All these offers are usually very well accepted and, even if you don’t do a first class job right away, at least you'll be trying your best.

Oolie the magic fish wrote:how do you get your parents to get you somthing off the internet. i ask mine if i can order different tricks as soon as i say i can i order they cut in nd say no.

i guess i just gonna have to stick with slieghts.

by the way i am only 13 so i am not a sad old man who lives with his parents.

you know, parents come in various different models and each react differently to different stimuli. What make and model are yours?

if you're 13 don't you have pocket money

Mandrake wrote:I'm guessing that the items you want aren't likely to be a possibility if you wait until Christmas and/or Birthday so how about making your parents a proposal which they might like? Let them know you'd like to obtain a particular magic item, perhaps show them the website where it's described and, without giving away the secret, tell them how you would appreciate having it and using it. If you can't find words to justify buying it then perhaps it isn't quite the 'must have' which you think it is.

Before asking for the OK you need to offer something in return - household chores are usually a tradeable item. Clean the downstairs windows, mow the lawn, cut the hedge, weed the garden (if you have such things), take the rubbish out, even have a go at vacuuming the carpet etc. All these offers are usually very well accepted and, even if you don’t do a first class job right away, at least you'll be trying your best.

Good advice which works for me. "tradeable item"

Yeah - you need to prove that this is serious and not just another "ooh, I want one of those!" things - as you will see on this forum, even the mature in years suffer from internet impulse buys! But if you really want it, do your homework on it, and then make long-winded plans to travel to a magic shop to buy it. After all the worry about trains and buses in other cities, they'll probably agree it's "safer all round" to just get it you off the internet!

Do your parents buy stuff from the internet anyway? Don't forget, some oldies (present company excluded!) are still very distrustful of handing over financial info on the internet - this may be a factor.

If your parents really won't budge on buying you something off the internet, you could always suggest a trip to the nearest magic shop to you. I don't know how convieniant this would be for you, just putting the idea out there.

Definitely try the idea of trading chores for getting bought things.

Although...especially if the things you want are expensive, you might have to wait for some forthcoming occasion when you get presents, and then maybe your parents will be more willing. Are the things you want expensive?

I guess it helps to pinpoint the problem your parents have. Is it financial? Do they not trust the internet? Don't like you doing magic?

Hey here's a thought... Could you get a part time job? Then you could maybe buy them yourself..

Hey guys, sorry I've been gone without the internet for a few days, I'm too tired to read all this now, but will say my thoughts as to how to get your parents to allow you to buy things online... first tell them (and this is the truth) that it is actualy SAFER to use your credit card online than to use it in person being as nobody can recieve the information you enter, it's all done by a computer, actualy 90% of credit card fraud DOES NOT happen on the internet, people are affried to enter their credit card # into a secure computer but then they go and hand their credit card to a waiter/tress and allow them to go in the back of the resturant with it and write down the number while they're at it

Another thing is DON'T BEG, the more you bother your parents about it the less likely they will be to give in, just ask nicely, if all else fails give some cash to a friend and have them buy it for you.