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I see no major health problems in the future but I always say that if you feel sick then see a doctor not a psychic. I can see that he will be very strong and active in his old age with lost of energy and stamina. He will not become bedridden and will certainly avoid senility. His mind will always be sharp and active and even on the day he dies he will be learning something fresh.

I can see that he gets bored very quickly. He needs lots of change and variety in his life. If he gets stuck doing anything monotonous he will go nuts more quickly than most.

I can see an old ambition that he had in the past that he didn't follow through on. However there are new horizons that he will fulfill in the future.

He will achieve his ambitions but it won't come overnight. However if he puts in the effort to achieve his goals he will make it in the end.

I do think he changes his mind from time to time but he is getting better at making decisions than he used to be. However I do see that he will often make his mind up then 10 minutes later will change his mind then another 10 minutes later he will go back to the first decision. However as I said this seems to be less of a problem in the future than it may have been in the past.

He has the ability to learn and gather knowledge. However he may sometimes learn the hard way. He has the ability to create system and order out of chaos. The only problem is that he may create the chaos himself in the first place!

I see marriage ahead for him. Who he will marry I don't know. I can't give him the young lady's name, address and phone number but I do see eventual happiness in love providing he works at the relationship.

Now I need to see the palm again to observe if there are any children lines. Now children lines are not always accurate. I am supposed to have 8 children because I have 8 children lines on my hand. However I don't have any children that I know about or would admit to. Mind you I deal a lot with children because I do so many kid shows so perhaps that accounts for all the children lines.

I will be back once I have had a look for the children lines on his hand. I daren't press the back button in case all this disappears.

One moment please.

I can't really see the children lines so I won't comment on them. I do see a change in the work area for him. Now I don't necessarily mean that he will change his job. It could be merely a promotion of some sort or perhaps he is going to be moved to another department.

I do get a vibe of an offer, proposition or suggestion which is coming up in the work area. Whether he takes the opportunity will be up to him. He should remember the saying "All that glitters is not gold" Mind you he should also remember the other saying "nothing ventured, nothing gained"

Because of the stress lines I must recommend to him that he takes things one day at a time. Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is only a mystery. But today is a gift. That is why they call it the present.

He should also keep in mind the serenity prayer.

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change
The courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference"

The key phrase here is "the wisdom to know the difference"

I think the best of Eckozero's life is in front of him and the worst is behind him. The future is bright and positive and I wish him the best of luck.

There. Now if anyone else wants it done I shall require money.

well then... an interesting read. we look forward now to Eckozero's feelings about all this. perhaps he would even consider writing a review of all this since it is a commercially available service.

i can see myself that one of your comments has been realised already Mark:

he should also remember the other saying "nothing ventured, nothing gained"

he took a risk starting a potentially "volitile" thread, (given the way recent discussion on the topic had gone) and asked for a palm reading... and got 2 for FREE!

Time for some third person perspective...

I do know Ecko Zero personally, and quite honestly I'm very impressed by the accuracy of Mark's reading. I would say the majority of what you've said (obviously I can't comment on future goings-on, just have to wait around and see) is really very true to Ecko Zero's nature.

in terms of layout and ease of reviewing, i am afraid Ian wins... pardon the punn... hands down! but he may have an unfair advantage because he knows what a word doc is???

Bear in mind, Mark is doing this for free, he didn't have to do it at all...
So you can't really blame him for what style he wrote it in. If we were paying him, we could complain

On that note, I'd like to point out that considering the accuracy of Ecko Zero's reading...I'm interested in getting one myself (paying obviously ) so once next month's money rolls in, Mr Lewis can expect a PM in his inbox

Taiven, Ian did his reading for free also. Mr Lewis simply refuses to accept 21st Century technology. that and the fact he knows i am just taking the p*** out of him which he has proven repeatedly to be more than able to handle.

i am interested to know what you thought of Ian's reading. i would expect Mark's to be very good because he has been doing it for a long time, his first client was a long bearded chap by the name of Noah i believe. Mark never got to finish his reading though... he had to leave in a hurry!

anyway, what did you think if Ian's efforts?

i also am considering Mark's offer. not to prove him wrong though... that would be a waste of my money and his time. more so to prove him right. however i have a little task i would like him to undertake first, i am quite sure he will PM me if he is interested in completing this task, or at least finding out what it is. if not, then no big deal... i haven't exactly presented myself as the ideal psychic client

This is going to be big...
I'm also slightly hungover so I apologise in advance for any garing spelling mistakes etc

But... here goes

ian69 wrote:Palm Read – EckoZero

(Note: this is based entirely on notes written before the Rev. Lewis’ reading and EZ’s answers.)


Palm Shape

Square palm – you are hard-working and a problem solver, a great combination. You have a logical mind and are likely to specialise in technical fields. You are trustworthy, sceptical, moral, modest and grounded in reality. Think Clint Eastwood.

I do indeed work hard. Problem solving is also one of my strong points as I have a very logical mind (sometime's too logical - ask my missus!). As for specialising in technical fields, I suppose electrician training counts I'm quite dexterous also so magic and guitar are good for me. I am trustworthy yes, sceptical maybe... but a healthy level of it .
I have a very firm set of morals... I am sometimes modest and I do like to keep my feet planted down here on the good old terra firma of reality.

Your fingers show you are pragmatic, hard-working, materialistic and opinionated. You are quite decisive, but you could do with more reflection on occasion. Quite passionate, if they do that in Cambridgeshire!

If my understanding of the word pragmatic is correct (ie practical) then yes I am. As previously mentioned I am indeed hard working, not that materialistic... (although I am fond of my DVD collection...) and yes I am opinionated. Rather outspoken about it too.
As for deciseveness, I would lean more to the indecisive. However, upon making a decision, I'm as stubborn as a mule
As for not being passionate in Cambridgeshire, I imagine they do that everywhere And I am passionate... about things I love lol.

You are a confident person, even if that confidence has developed quite recently. You are resourceful – you feel you could probably make it on the run or stranded on an island. That you have above average intelligence will have come as no surprise.

The confidence is definitely there, and yes it has developed quite recently. Resourcefulness is another one of my strong points. I'm the sort of person who could make a telephone out of a burger box, old chocolate bar and a packet of crisps if the need ever REALLY arose.
I am surprised to hear that me having above average intelligence is of no surprise But generally speaking, I do rather well in both practical tests and in intelligence tests such as IQ.

Hand type "Earth"

Emphasis on family and long term success. Practical and sensible. You are broad-minded and quite mature in judgement for your peer group.

I'm often called "the sensible one" Good catch!

Life line

Far across the palm - great zest for life, energy and stamina, enthuiastic for life. Inward curve at the bottom suggests need for exercise to balance other aspects, also need for quality rest.

You have had major changes since 2002 , but I see a period of stability from about 21-40 in one job, then a major change. You are currently experiencing a positive time. It may not feel so at the moment but it certainly will in retrospect.

I am definitely enthusiastic for life with a lot of energy for what i do and what I believe in. As for major changes, I have indeed had some huge changes since 2002 (in fact 2002 was when I moved out... well done on the date!). It's nice to hear about stability in a job, although I can only hope its something I at least vaguely like.
As for it not feeling like a good time at the moment, it doesn't seem that great in all honesty - however, I can certainly understand where you're coming from saying that in retrospect it will do I do need some quality rest as well...

Lack of worry lines suggests good mental health and positive outlook. That is not to say there are no problems, but you will overcome them. Bit of chaining indicates a period of ill-health but it is overcome with no lasting ill-effects.

Are worry lines the ones that go from the thumb? If so, I appear to have a rather large number of them...
My mental health is in good shape at the moment, although it hasn't always been.
There was however a rather long period of ill health recently...

Lifeline position/Mount of Venus - enjoy good things in life. Quite sensual. Not very inhibited or self-absorbed. You are interested in other people, perceptive and observant, though this will develop further.

I am inclined to agree here

Head Line

Wide range of interests, good capacity for learning, quick thinking. One of your strongest characteristics. However the angle also suggests a good imagination, although by no means so extensive as to be out of touch with reality. This level of imagination also helps with ideas and creativity. Good concentration and a dry sense of humour enjoyed by those around you.

Thinking on my feet (quick thinking) is one of my strongest points yes. My imagnation is good also, although not really out of touch with reality no
As for the dry sense of humour, if I can get through a day without elliciting groans at my jokes, I shall be a sad man indeed. People do indeed enjoy my sense of humour

Gap between head and life lines (as foretold by the Reverend Lewis!) suggests independence and self-reliance. Strong sense of self, own identity. However not so far away (under forefinger, for example) that your identity provoked out and out conflict with your parents/teachers, or at least, not for long. Good basis for confidence, if a little headstrong. You feel you have a lot of untapped potential and that you are not always given full credit for your abilities.

I do indeed have a strong sense of self identity, and whilst my identity has often raised eyebrows, with the exception of my mother, it hasn't really provided conflict as such.
I am headstrong, although I assumed that was a good thing (although admittedly perhaps somewhat bullish )

You are quite comfortable in the spotlight – perhaps not on stage, but certainly in a smaller setting. All of us can feel insecure at times but you have learnt not to show it too much.

I am indeed. When suddenly all eyes turn to me I manage to stay focused. I can work well on stage even with a whole hallfull of people watching me, although, as suggeted, I do prefer to be in the spotlight in a smaller setting.

You have an interest in hypnotism, but feel it is something for later. You imagine you cannot be hypnotised yourself, though that will change.

This fascinates me. I have made mention to mentalism and the like and yes I do have an interest in hypnotism. I do believe however that more life experience will be necessary before I start taking this too seriously.
As for the time being, I do believe that it's unlikely I would allow myself to hypnotised... as I like to stay in control of my life.

You are an independent thinker and see yourself as original, though you may actually be more conformist than you would like to admit. You are still at the mercy of some “hand me downs” in your thought patterns but you are likely to outgrow them. Your clarity of thought does make you less prejudiced than some others around you.

I am original indeed, and yes, through laziness on my part my non-conformity has slipped somewhat into the lazy mans "Ok then... I'll do it".
As for the "hand me downs" I assume you mean I think like my parents. I do think like my dad, although I view this as generally a good thing.
And yes, my lack of prejudice is one of my strong points too.

One of your major attributes is the confidence to say or do something rather than worry about it and how it will be received. This will be a great asset as not doing things out of worry means that nothing gets done.

Can't agree more! If everyone always worries about what to say, nothing does ever get done, and I'm not really down with that

Heart Line

"Physical" type in curve and end point. Healthy attitude to emotions, can express yourself well, capable of overcoming emotional pain. Things hurt but you can move on in time. Not prone to depression; emotions don't block your sense of what is practical. The end position of the line offers the best chance of happiness - although tending a little perhaps towards the selfish in a relationship. Do you see yourself as a companion for others or are they your companions? Are you too selective? Slight fork suggests a level of complexity in emotional issues. "Chains" in the heart line suggest emotional stresses. These are quite common in early life but yours extend. Still, they smooth out later in life suggesting it all turns out just fine. You have a taste for the unusual in love. Page 3 girls would bore you after the first day.

I can express myself well verbally, although as metioned by mark, I do have some problems with bottling up emotions. I am prone to depression alas, as I suffered from it for a few years going back some now.
I have a stable relationship at the moment and don't feel particularly selfish in it, although thats not to say that I'm not I suppose.
Page 3 girls would DEFINITELY bore me after a day. If that long!

Fate Line

Not everyone has one, but yours is long and straight, suggesting you have a clear idea of your goals and the stamina to reach them. Yours also suggests fewer mishaps in life and the ability to overcome them. Mine looks completely different, unfortunately!

I do have a clear idea of my goals indeed, and I know that deep down, if I knuckle down I can acchieve them. The problem I currently have is getting motivated.

Position of fate line, closely intertwined with life line - very good, suggests strong family influence for the positive, morals and caring. This gave you the confidence to become independent and self-reliant, very different from if you had had no choice but to grow up fast. Nice and straight to your heart line - suggests stability.

Family influence on the positive only really applies to my dad, but I'll agree here.
Although I must say, i did have to grow up fast, which probably made for the lack of confidence etc in earlier life.

FL points to second finger - stable, productive role in society.

You are dedicated and stick at things. This will ultimately be more use in life than your intelligence. You will have to enjoy work though, preferably in a team environment. Much as mundane jobs would dissatisfy you, I’d say cold calling (telesales) would be your worst option, leaving you feeling isolated. Anyway, things look positive on the goals/career front.

I'll agree here 100%

Health line

Very little definition, points to relaxation, good health. Quite resistant to illness. However some points cause a little concern, though healthy living and exercise should be enough to deal with them. You have physical confidence, though your feet may become a problem, as may a little hay fever, which may already have started. You have ideas on how to improve your health and fight tension and stress, even if you haven’t carried them out fully.

I have had several problems with my feet already
Verucas, athletes foot etc and whilst not prone to hayfever, when the pollen count is very high I do indeed get some headachey stuff...

Sun Line

Points to success - nothing outstanding but "enough". You get dissatisfied when hemmed in/restricted. You don’t like being bossed around but you work well in a team. You see yourself as unmaterialistic but is it true?

I do indeed feel dissatisfied when hemmed in and restricted. Also yes, I dislike being bossed around as I don't like being walked all over, but team work is definitely one of my stronger points.

Family Ring

Present but not v sharply defined. Won't be main focus of your life but it is present. Your other characteristics of confidence, intelligence and optimism suggest you would make a good father.

No interest in becoming a father However it has been commented that I would make a good father before. Can't see it myself

Notes

Because hand pressed flat against glass, difficult to determine several factors, incl. the size/shape of the "mounts". I could venture guesses, but as some of the things reflect what has already been said, I won't.

If anything I sense a blue-green aura, though I’ll leave that to the Reverend Browning.

Overall

A good, positive, balanced hand with many grounds for optimism, esp. re health and careers. Some troubles and irritations along the way on the heart line though it comes right in the end. Your confidence in life is well-placed. You are an achiever, not a dreamer.

A very tidy summary Ian. Well done! You too are learned in this science I imagine, and have done a good job reading me.
I congratulate you!


I shall now retire for a while, tend to my hangover, and be back in a while to comment on the rest of Mark's reading...

I replied earlier to Bobbycat's impertinent remarks but the whole thing vanished into cyberspace.

I informed him that I was going to do my reading anyway I liked and if he didn't like my layout and organisation he could go and stuff himself up his left nostril. I also commented on the fact that I knew something about Ian's reading which he didn't since Ian contacted me privately about it. I ain't gonna tell though. I will leave it up to Ian whether to spill the beans or not. I have a feeling that he shouldn't. People won't know the difference and it will be fun to let the silly b***** from Australia wonder what we are on about.

I think Ian is to be congratulated for his insight into the divinatory arts. I am sniggering inside because I know that there is more to his insight than he is letting on. He should be very proud of himself and his reading and Eckozero's assessment of it proves how powerful this kind of stuff is.

And we haven't even started on the tarot! That really can shake things up! I consider it the most powerful method of divination known to man.

As for Eckozero's hangover I must caution him in my capacity as a holy man of the cloth to beware of the effects of the devil's buttermilk. Besides spewing up in the streets of Cambridgeshire can be a little offputting. I hear the place is very posh.

Ok. Hangover all gone now thanks to nurofen and water...

So I shall now continue on Marks reading...

I see that Eckozero is more confident than he used to be. When he was younger believe it or not I see a certain amount of shyness around him. In fact it may still be present to a degree. But it looks like he found that he could do something better than anyone else (not necessarily magic) and it has given him more confidence than he used to have.

Indeed I was a shy child. In fact i'd often sit and read rather than be around people. However, it has got better.
It's entirely possible that the thing I found I could do rather well was play guitar as I found myself picking it up quite naturally and developed quite a talent.
Magic may also be one such one thing as I take very well to hands on things.

He will gradually develop a strong faith of some sort. Not just a church type religious thing but his own philosophy of life. He can be impatient as I have already mentioned and likes people to get to the point rather than beat about the bush.

This is entirely likely as my religious philosophies are somewhat away from mainstream Christianity.
Also I will agree that I prefer people to get to the point.

I think I see health issues in the past but caused more through stress and worry than anything else. Certainly a factor to a degree anyway. I think he does worry quite a bit and I would recommend to him a great book on the subject called "How to stop worrying and start living" by Dale Carnegie.

I have indeed had several health issues in the past and have been treated for many stress related illnesses as well as a stress related tic.
I shall look into the book.

Last year was quite a difficult one for him in some ways and I get a psychic vibe (however you want to define psychic) that on New Years Eve 6 months ago he said "thank God that's over" He was quite glad to see last year out of the way. This year although not a complete bed of roses is better than last year but next year will be better than this year. In other words things are going forward and not going backwards.

Urgh. Absolutely. Last year was rotten and I was well glad to get it out of the way.
This year has yet to be brilliant, but things are indeed looking up!

I see no major health problems in the future but I always say that if you feel sick then see a doctor not a psychic. I can see that he will be very strong and active in his old age with lost of energy and stamina. He will not become bedridden and will certainly avoid senility. His mind will always be sharp and active and even on the day he dies he will be learning something fresh.

I am pleased to hear I will not go senile! I am also glad I will not become bedridden. Any ideas as to the manner of my death Mr Lewis?

I can see that he gets bored very quickly. He needs lots of change and variety in his life. If he gets stuck doing anything monotonous he will go nuts more quickly than most.

I can see an old ambition that he had in the past that he didn't follow through on. However there are new horizons that he will fulfill in the future.

I do get bored quickly and like lots of change. I get cabin fever after a day or so, so in that sense yes I do "go nuts" quicker than most.
The old ambition that I didn't follow through on is entirely possible as there was something from my past that faded away from me and eventually left into a nothingness.
Glad I'll do something with my life though

He will achieve his ambitions but it won't come overnight. However if he puts in the effort to achieve his goals he will make it in the end.

I do think he changes his mind from time to time but he is getting better at making decisions than he used to be. However I do see that he will often make his mind up then 10 minutes later will change his mind then another 10 minutes later he will go back to the first decision. However as I said this seems to be less of a problem in the future than it may have been in the past.

I'm sure I'll put in plenty of effort to achieve things
Yes I am somewhat indecisive at times, and I do have a tendency to "yes/no" every 10 minutes. Often when it's something I am unsure of or seek guidance on...
As you mentioned, it is indeed getting better.

He has the ability to learn and gather knowledge. However he may sometimes learn the hard way. He has the ability to create system and order out of chaos. The only problem is that he may create the chaos himself in the first place!

That's great Everyone says my room is a tip (it is, they're right) and as such could easily represent the chaos I made. However, I hae a system of orderliness and somehow now where everything I need in my room is! I do the same with workspaces etc too.

I see marriage ahead for him. Who he will marry I don't know. I can't give him the young lady's name, address and phone number but I do see eventual happiness in love providing he works at the relationship.

Already got her thanks

I do see a change in the work area for him. Now I don't necessarily mean that he will change his job. It could be merely a promotion of some sort or perhaps he is going to be moved to another department.

I do get a vibe of an offer, proposition or suggestion which is coming up in the work area. Whether he takes the opportunity will be up to him. He should remember the saying "All that glitters is not gold" Mind you he should also remember the other saying "nothing ventured, nothing gained"

I'm currently waiting on an interview for a new job... Very good Mr Lewis!

Because of the stress lines I must recommend to him that he takes things one day at a time. Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is only a mystery. But today is a gift. That is why they call it the present.

He should also keep in mind the serenity prayer.

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change
The courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference"

Why thank you Mark. I will indeed take your advice into account!

I think the best of Eckozero's life is in front of him and the worst is behind him. The future is bright and positive and I wish him the best of luck.

Thank you again! See, you're not all that bad even thoughy ou'd have us believe it


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I will be honest and say i opened this thread with a touch of scepticism myself. It was healthy scepticism, the sort I was willing to do away with should things present themselves to me as they did.

I see great talent in this science I must say and whilst not strictly believeing in it as a form of divination, it is nice nonetheless to hear some kind and encouraging words about my future.


I will also add that Mark and Craigs comments of whether it works or not being irrelevant. The important part is how it makes the person who is being read feel.

Does it work? It may do. It would certainly seem so!

Can it help people?
Most definitely!

It's been an interesting journey, especially with everyone watching the progress, but I will say if you're unsure/skeptical then try it for yourself.

The results may well surprise you (as they did me! )

Kudos Mark and Ian for some great readings

I keep thinking of things I wanted to say after I have already posted. Age I expect.

I must inform Bobby Cat that I am lukewarm regarding his "task". I am
not attracted to challenges - I am attracted to money. Up front too. This is only to be expected from descendants of convicts.

If he is really interested in my methods then he must purchase my psychic home study course. No doubt his eyebrows will raise when viewing it and all will be revealed to him. It is a video course consisting of 4 lengthy videos and a 90 minute audiocassette tape. After studying it he will realise that all the silly books and courses on the subject (except the very Reverend Brownings material of course) pale into insignificance when compared to my magnificent material.

The first 60 minute video is all about Chinese Numerology. The second video also lasts around 60 minutes and consists entirely of palmistry lore. The third video is the longest and runs 90 minutes. It is all about the Tarot which I find a very powerful method of divination as already mentioned. The fourth video is all about how to make pots of money out of this stuff. Sorry. I had better rephrase that in case people think I have a mercenary nature.

The video is entitled a "fireside chat" and describes the business side of things and how financial energy is exchanged for metaphysical energy. There. That should be a nice way to put it.

All the individual videos and the cassette can be purchased separately. Send me a private message if any of you are interested. I would not want to discuss vulgar things like money, prices etc; in public since anyone can tell that I am above such things.

However while I am here blatantly advertising I might as well tell you that I have a new book coming out any day. It is not about psychic things but about my little friend Marmaduke the wonder mouse. The pocket trick of the universe. I am rather excited about it.

More another time.

Hi mark - I'm looking forward to reading more about the Marmaduke book. It sounds fascinating. Please let us know when you have more info.

As this thread is mainly about palmistry, I recently I came across an ebook called "Speed Learning: Palmistry in your own words" by Julian Moore. It's an e-book, only $22 and looks a good place to start. Have any of the experts here seen this tome? Any comments?

I see that I posted at the same time as Eckozero. He is asking about death a most morbid subject indeed. I am surprised that he is asking about it at his age.

He should be concerned with living not with dying.

I must say that I am far more concerned about my own impending demise than I am with his but the vibe I get is that he will know nothing about it. It will be just like going to sleep for rather a long time.

Think of an overlong magic show at a convention and he will get the idea.

umm.

If then, 2 readings are completely different. That challanges the whole point doesnt it.

Its all about what the person doing the reading decides what each line means!

So depending on which reader you go to, you will get a different result?

This is one of those things i cant get my head round. Sorry. (as with a fair few things in life - LOL)

i was reading this yesterday...

http://www.humanhand.com/laymans.html

bananafish wrote:As this thread is mainly about palmistry, I recently I came across an ebook called "Speed Learning: Palmistry in your own words" by Julian Moore. It's an e-book, only $22 and looks a good place to start.

I'm no expert - but I have it and I have found it very helpful. It gives you the basics, a method to learn, and really focuses on the reading itself (as in how to get it across in a meaningful way).

MagicTom wrote:umm.

If then, 2 readings are completely different. That challanges the whole point doesnt it.

Its all about what the person doing the reading decides what each line means!

So depending on which reader you go to, you will get a different result?

This is one of those things i cant get my head round. Sorry. (as with a fair few things in life - LOL)

hmm - you could say the same thing about the bible - but let's not go there, shall we