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Here's Twisting The Aces Effect by Dai Vernon.

Hope you like it.

http://media.putfile.com/Twisting-The-Aces-50

Nice trick, I thought I had it after watching it twice but I was wrong. I assme it was very well executed because I couldn't figure it out! Well done

it's some nice work, have you looked at the Asher twist too? similar kind of thing

Good performance, though I don't see the reason why you turn the cards you do. Maybe it fits your patter, I don't know.

Very nice. Its great to see someone studying the masters, especially the original and IMHO still the best handling of this effect.

This handling differs from the one in Inner Secrets, where did you get it from; Stars of Magic? There are some really nice touches in there, although I prefer a false show prior to the final revelation.

Why are you shaking the cards then twisting? Why not just twist. Seems like you are trying to hard to make the magic.

Good performance, though I don't see the reason why you turn the cards you do. Maybe it fits your patter, I don't know.

Rune, I'm sure you're familiar with this effect. So I cannot understand your comment???
I'ts called Twisting the Aces.

I believe Rune's comment comes from the idea that he has to reposition his grip to twist and then count through the cards. I'm assuming he's speaking of a bit of stutter to the flow of the effect.

I think you did a nice job with this. Watch your counts - you're fishtailing a little bit at times.

My only criticism would be the turnover of the aces of spades at the beginning of the effect. This is too overt a gesture for me - and in performance, it would look awkward. Why turn the card over one way, only to turn it back over in a completely different way? Consider consistency when performing - all moves should look natural and without real meaning.

Nice job!

Demitri wrote:My only criticism would be the turnover of the aces of spades at the beginning of the effect. This is too overt a gesture for me - and in performance, it would look awkward. Why turn the card over one way, only to turn it back over in a completely different way? Consider consistency when performing - all moves should look natural and without real meaning.

Nice job!

I would agree this would work better with patter, but either you don't know this effect, or I'm missing your point. The spade display is vernons original handling, you can derive what you will from that fact...

I think he does it very well. It should be remembered that showing the Ace of Spades at the beginning makes more sense in actual performance because the move is covered by the patter. You say "The Ace of Spades is a very difficult card to handle so we'll come to it later. The other aces are much easier". Or something like that anyway. You can allude to the fact that the ace is more difficult because of all the extra printing ink.

I am a fan of meaningless patter. I think it makes tricks more amusing.

I do agree about not making the last ace show up immediately. It should look as if the trick didn't work with the Ace of Spades. And then it does when you try it a second time. The impact on the audience will be much stronger.

I believe Kreskin once did this as a mental effect on television! He got people to think of aces and by the power of their mind made them turn over. At least I think he did. It was a long time ago and I can't really remember.

One suggestion I have is to use an ace, two, three and four. Put them in 4321 order at the beginning. When you do the trick in the normal fashion the cards will reverse in Ace, two, three, and four order. The advantage of this handling is that it makes the trick easier to follow from the audience point of view. They don't have to worry about which Ace came up already.

Mark, agreed, infact I think the patter line you suggest was Vernons original script, but you probably already knew that.

Love the idea of using it as a mentalism effect, by the way. Never heard of it before and it sounds good.

Varying the cards used not only helps with spectator recognition, but helps no end with routining. Thanks for the tips.

Thanks for the comments.

Larry wrote:it's some nice work, have you looked at the Asher twist too? similar kind of thing

Yes, I know about that and I must say Ionly liked his performance of the trick. I never saw anyone else do it so smoothly like him. I can't do it well, I make too much of a noise and it doesn't look right. (keep in mind that I never looked at Asher's instructional video):

rcarlsen wrote:Good performance, though I don't see the reason why you turn the cards you do. Maybe it fits your patter, I don't know.

I'm not sure what you meant by the turning part. It is in the original patter because the point is that the aces are turning upside down while you're performing the turning motion. If you were talking about the way I'm turning the packet then well... that's just my way of doing it.

pdjamez wrote:This handling differs from the one in Inner Secrets, where did you get it from; Stars of Magic? There are some really nice touches in there, although I prefer a false show prior to the final revelation.

I just have a clip with the instruction on this particular trick, I don't know where it was published. Nice idea about the false show ata the end. I would have never thought of that one myself.

edh wrote:Why are you shaking the cards then twisting? Why not just twist. Seems like you are trying to hard to make the magic.

Oh, the purpose of the shaking is just to bring attention on the magic moment. I wouldn't do that normally, performing live, but there's no talking on the video so I had to make a gesture pointing out the moment.

mark lewis wrote:I believe Kreskin once did this as a mental effect on television! He got people to think of aces and by the power of their mind made them turn over. At least I think he did. It was a long time ago and I can't really remember.

What a nice idea. And it fits the patter because you can leave the spades for the end saying it's the hardest card to turn over because too many people thought of that one.

mark lewis wrote:One suggestion I have is to use an ace, two, three and four. Put them in 4321 order at the beginning. When you do the trick in the normal fashion the cards will reverse in Ace, two, three, and four order. The advantage of this handling is that it makes the trick easier to follow from the audience point of view. They don't have to worry about which Ace came up already.

Thanks for the suggestion. Personally, I would feel more comfortable doing it with 2, 3, 4, and a 5 because ace is considered to be a picture card so why don't make it a completely aceless (is it a word?) routine?


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Scriptorilsky wrote:Thanks for the comments.

pdjamez wrote:This handling differs from the one in Inner Secrets, where did you get it from; Stars of Magic? There are some really nice touches in there, although I prefer a false show prior to the final revelation.

I just have a clip with the instruction on this particular trick, I don't know where it was published. Nice idea about the false show ata the end. I would have never thought of that one myself.

I take back what I said about studying the masters. What was the name of the video, DVD, or was it just a random download from the internet?

Do it any way you want. I have my own troubles.

Personally I would have thought that ace, two, three, four makes more sense than two, three, four, five but they probably do things differently in countries that are not part of the British Empire.

Having said this I tend to use the 4 aces because the trick ties in well with Dr. Daley's Last Trick.
Actually you could combine the two tricks with a little throwaway thing of Cy Endfield's called "there's 5 aces" where you count the four aces and there appears to be five.

pdjamez wrote:I would agree this would work better with patter, but either you don't know this effect, or I'm missing your point. The spade display is vernons original handling, you can derive what you will from that fact...

I've been performing this effect for quite some time, but I feel perhaps my point may have been misunderstood.

I was simply talking about consistency of the movement. This was just a personal preference that I wanted to share. I have always found that particular replacement of the ace of spades to be a suspicious move. The turnover to show the ace of spades is very casual and offhanded. However, turning the packet face up and THEN pulling out and turning the ace of spades over seems too overt (to me). I think the move is unusual and out of place. As a result, I prefer the more casual approaches (much like the handling Ammar uses), where the movement is more consistent with the original turnover.