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Hi guys, I have actually since thought of a rather good patter since this was recorded so the actual performance will be quite different though the basics are the same

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cxFkEh1GcI

Errm......

*Scratches head*

Am I missing something here ??

I don't want to sound rude but I think I'm missing the plot 'cos I didn't see anything magical. If I'm missing something then I apologise

well... yes i think you missed it. 4 aces start in 4 seperate pile and endup in the same pile.

Darth Psycrow wrote:well... yes i think you missed it. 4 aces start in 4 seperate pile and endup in the same pile.

Am I the only one missing something here lol ??
The way the cards are initially laid out and the way you pick them up, will always lead to the 4 aces being in the same pile - sorry nothing magical imo
You could also try being a lil' more subtle when you peek each pile in order to locate which pile the aces are in

Hey

I totally argree with moonbeam here. There isn't really anything magical going on here becuse you will always be left with the aces in the four piles.

Also i agree that you really need to be A LOT more subtle when you peak at the four piles.

But i cannot see this a 'Magic Trick' atm however if you crate some patter be slyer and genrally improve the 'trick' you could class it as 'magic'.

I'm really not trying to flame you I'm just 'saying it as it is'.

The effect is such because of cutting the cards several times even more so because I get a spectator to do the cutting, plus the cutting can be anywhere in the deck, whether it be 2, 5, 9, however far down. The Aces still end up in 1 pile rather than random places

Do you understand the reason people find it obvious or are you explaining how it is perceived from a spectator's point of view? It's kind of hard to say anything in an open except...well, if you want to get really cryptic take a look at the name of a popular brand of playing cards - the clue lies within.

Darth Psycrow wrote:The effect is such because of cutting the cards several times even more so because I get a spectator to do the cutting, plus the cutting can be anywhere in the deck, whether it be 2, 5, 9, however far down. The Aces still end up in 1 pile rather than random places

I think that even your average Joe Public knows that no matter how many times the cards are cut, the order of the cards remains the same - it's a well known principle

moonbeam wrote:I think that even your average Joe Public knows that no matter how many times the cards are cut, the order of the cards remains the same - it's a well known principle

I would say that is deffinatly not true. They have no idea! The only ones who do are the ones who know the card trick with the kings queens jacks and aces one of each are placed together (part of a royal party,matching suits) then they all mingle at a function! (cards are cut)and when dealt then they amazingly end up with their own type. Which works the same as this. However the story probably helps disguise the method.

This is often perfomed if i have cards out by someone wanting to "show me a trick" people seem to quite like it, and have no idea how it works. And neither do i

How its presented there - its pretty obvious im afraid. And I agree with everyone on the peeking. Perhaps not putting the cards so obviously in that position to start with, and disguising things with some sort of story line would help distract from the method ( from my personal experience, if you tell someone right from the start whats going to happen at the end, they'l be watching more closely and working out the mothod as you do it, let them find out the end at the end, when its to late to watch closely if that makes sense)

The only thing you did wrong, was to start by showing that you were using the 4 aces, then you delt the cards face upwards! You should have had the 4 aces on top of the deck, then done an overhand shuffle retaining them on top, and get the spec to deal 4 hands of 4. Then cut the pile etc, and deal again.

Another hint: the revelation of the 'pointless' hands was a bit drawn out, in performance you should force the aces and get on with the magic. Try it out, it makes more sense doesn't it? Just my opinion though...