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Postby jonathon14 » Jul 16th, '06, 13:58



i bought greed off penguinmagic but theres 2 problems. 1st im using £ currency not dollar. 2 i need help with switching!!!!!! ive been practicing how to switch things but i still cant get it right. once ive performed it to my friend they caught me switching....!!!!! can anyone help?

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Postby dat8962 » Jul 16th, '06, 15:37

I suggest that you're performing it too soon if you're getting caught out on a part that you know that you need to improve.

I don;t know the trick so can't comment on the switch etc. but I would suggest that you study the instructions in more detail

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Postby fspigeon » Jul 18th, '06, 16:55

Hey, I'm from England too...

I have made my gimmick and perform it quite a bit...

The switching for me is fine, but as the guy above me said, I would practise again and again.

Hope it goes well :D

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Postby BizKiTRoAcH » Jul 18th, '06, 23:32

fspigeon wrote:Hey, I'm from England too...

I have made my gimmick and perform it quite a bit...


Just out of curiousity, did you use real notes or did you print off your own larger sized ones?

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Postby jonathon14 » Jul 19th, '06, 13:10

well isnt that illegal to print notes? n do u use 2 £5 notes, and a £10 note with £20 and £50 to make the gimmick. it costs £30.? and i dont have that kind of money!!!!!!!! i havent performed it yet and im still having difficulty building the gimmick and the 50p switch.

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Postby bronz » Jul 19th, '06, 19:15

Don't worry about the legality just copy the notes! I've seen tricks for sale in magic shops that use realistic looking fake money, if you get prosecuted for doing it I promise to pay you all the money I earn next year.

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Postby BizKiTRoAcH » Jul 19th, '06, 20:10

jonathon14, its also illegal to record something off the tv.. you wont get done for it though. If you print off notes and try selling them or using them for buying stuff, you probably will. If you make a few fake notes for a magic trick, I cant see anything bad happening over it.

Also, you posted on June 16th that you got greed.. and you are having problems. You cant master the trick in a few days ;)

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Postby magicmarc » Jul 31st, '06, 13:28

Also, do we need the 4th change? Can we not just use £5 - £10 - £20 - coin? I know that the £50 note is considerably larger, and to shrink this or enlarge the other notes to this size will look very wrong. What should we do for this?

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Postby El_Satanico » Aug 4th, '06, 02:13

Whenever I've performed this I just use US currency. Because of the size difference in UK Sterling the gimmick is hard to take seriously. I think it's a matter of justification for using a different currency in your patter, I normally talk for a while about the currency market, how interest rates rise and fall, this takes me nicely into a switch of a borrowed £10 to a $1 bill. Switching this on the off-beat for the Greed gimmick and you're set!

Andrew Mayne uses a nice line about money being like water and subject to change he talks about liquid capital and cash flow to emphasise his point.

Perhaps think about making Garcia's Greed part of a larger routine to play about with the currency change...

Just a suggestion!

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Postby Scriptorilsky » Aug 4th, '06, 10:51

I don't perform it because I can't see how could it be done with Cro currency which has 6 different coloured notes and sizes don't match. And there's no point in doing it with your own dollar bill.

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Postby El_Satanico » Aug 4th, '06, 11:07

And there's no point in doing it with your own dollar bill.


Daniel Garcia's own presentation doesn't use a "borrowed" bill. He doesn't borrow a bill and then switch for the gimmick either... just "one dollar bill...." then on with the trick...

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Postby El_Satanico » Aug 4th, '06, 11:08

And there's no point in doing it with your own dollar bill.


Daniel Garcia's own presentation doesn't use a "borrowed" bill. He doesn't borrow a bill and then switch for the gimmick either... just "one dollar bill...." then on with the trick...

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Postby Scriptorilsky » Aug 4th, '06, 11:30

I know, I have the video. You misunderstood my point.

My point was: There's no point in doing it with your own dollar bill in a country where people have never seen dolllars before in real life (just in movies) :) That may be hard to believe but it's a fact.

Don't do money magic with money that can't be seen in the country. It makes it look gimmicked from the very start of the effect.

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Postby El_Satanico » Aug 4th, '06, 11:48

I see your point but don't entirely agree. I might turn a borrowed coin into a Chinese coin ala Eddie Gibson. Do you think it would then be justified to go on and use this coin for another effect before returning it to it's original state to hand back to the spectator?

It's obviously an individual performance preference, dollars are usually fairly prevalent amongst audiences I perform for in London's Docklands etc.

I think the Greed effect is a really good one and I'd always opt for doing a version with dollars over a further gimmicked version utilising photocopied enlarged and reduced notes...

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Postby Scriptorilsky » Aug 4th, '06, 13:27

El_Satanico wrote:I see your point but don't entirely agree. I might turn a borrowed coin into a Chinese coin ala Eddie Gibson. Do you think it would then be justified to go on and use this coin for another effect before returning it to it's original state to hand back to the spectator?



Good point, but that's coin magic and with the coins being small and all that noone would really give a damn. Also, if you are doing transpozitions and sleight of hand coin magic it doesn't really matter as long as the spectator can take a good look at the coin before the effect takes place. As for the notes, the effect of changing their value isn't that strong if the spectator doesn't think it's a regular bill, and to them a foreign bill isn't regular from the very start because they have never seen or touched it in real life. I see your point though. It's an individual choice of the performer.

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