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I was just wondering how many of you like and/or use the shapeshifter move or the snap change. I have recently perfected (hopefully anyways) these 2 and I'd like to know your opinions/preferences on these sleights.

If you had to do only one in a show, which would it be? (I know of course there are many other colour changes out there but as far as more "exotic" changes these are the only ones I can perform well). While I'm not able to perform a spin change properly (I'll need considerably more practice), I've included it in the poll question just to know how everybody else feels about it.

Thanks!

I'm assuming by classic "palm" color change, you meant the Erdnase Color Change. This is generally one of the only color changes I use. Shapeshifter is probably one of the few variations I work in.

My current favorite change is Mike Skutt's Siamese Change - which I think is a work of art. It's not as off the cuff as the others, but it's a beauty.

My reasons are solely from my own point of view and ideas of how practical certain things are. Changes like the Snap Change and the Bertram Change are too angle sensitive for my tastes.

That's not to say I don't like the changes when I see them performed. The only exception is possibly the snap change. For some reason, I just don't like it all that much. I think the Bertram Change is absolutely beautiful when done properly (yet another reason I don't use it, as mine is somewhat inconsistent). I just would rather watch others do it, and rely on my old standards.

I prefer the Erdnase change to those that you have mentioned. Although I like both the Snap Change and the Shapeshifter, when the card changes, I think you get a sense of movement (regardless of how well it is performed) and that leads people, not neccessarily to the correct method, but to thinking that the hand is faster than the eye, and you did something, because of the way the changes look and even sound.

With the Erdnase change (which I also prefer to the classic change, as your hands begin empty) there is no sound, and no sense of movement. Your hand is empty to begin with, you cover the face card of the deck for a second, and it has changed immediately, and silently, leaving your hand empty again.

If you are into the Erdnase Change, try using it with two aces (clubs and diamonds). Because the outer right hand corners of both cards are blank, you get a lovely retention of vision where even when you know what you are doing, still looks exceptional. Try it out.

Liam.

For me its the erdnase colour change because its the only I can do perfectly

I quite like shapeshifter though.. can be VERY effective in some tricks.

I like both the Erdnase and Shapeshifter, i generally work both into a routine at least once. However, my deciding factor comes down to this:

Someone approaches me having heard that i do magic tricks. Asks to see one quickly. I agree and, if i dont have any which rarely happens, i ask to borrow a pack or cards. I ask them to select a card and return it. Everytime, i perform shapeshifter to change the different card into theirs, and it blows them away.

Why? because its fast, simple, effective, and its less likely to go wrong than an Erdnase with a borrowed deck. An old, worn out, crusty, possibly slightly chewed, plastic deck of cards. Ive tried it before on my own during practice and its like doing a pass instead of a colour change because all the cards are stuck together. Sometimes you can even hear them seperate!

For me I think it has to be the snap change, it is by far the most visual and leave the card in the same position when changed.

Steve Dela

Demitri wrote:I'm assuming by classic "palm" color change, you meant the Erdnase Color Change.

Those are two different changes. The classic palm color change is exactly what it sounds like. I don't know if I am allowed to explain it in more detail. Just think more distance than the erdnase.

I think all color changes have their place in their respective tricks. Where it would be appropriate to use one, it may not be to use another. For instance, I have a trick where I use the Ego change and it perfectly sets me up for the 2nd phase of the effect. Where as if I used the erdnaise it wouldn't allow me to seamlessly go into the next stage. And on the same side, I have another set of effects that the erdnase is an integral aspect in setting up the next phase.

But, I do prefer the shapeshifter. I am not great at the snap change but I never practise it. I am just not big into that kind of flashy magic. Not that I don't use it now and then, and there is certainly nothing wrong with it, it's just not my style anymore.

Demitri wrote:I'm assuming by classic "palm" color change, you meant the Erdnase Color Change.

Yes that's what I meant - I was about to write it and then for a split second I all of a sudden doubted that it's name was in fact Erdnase (similar to when you all of a sudden are unsure of the spelling of a word you type every day) so I didn't write it for fear that it was wrong! I wonder if there is any way to edit the poll question?

i10011i - I know they're two different changes, but for some reason, I got a sense he was talking about the Erdnase. Just clarifying for my own sake.