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I know this is a strange question but do many of you use crimps? John Bannon has a number of tricks that rely on them but I always feel uncomfortable using them because its difficult to get them out and make the pack clean for the next trick. But maybe its just because I haven't practised enough with them

I'm sorry I'm new and I'm not helping you but what is crimping? If its a secret I understand.

There's one very old routine which I use (and published couple of years ago!) which uses this principle. The main requirement is that you do it with borrowed cards thus making it look very innocent and also because it doesn't spoil your cards. Evil but fun !

I use crimps pretty often, I have even come up with a simple one of my own. Can be done right in front of them, and never know. (it might already be around, I dont know). but it works well. I have also used the one using a coin.

Personally I dont really like to use crimping...it also makes me feel odd after finishing up tricks. I actually prefer and use the Dirty Deck Principle much more as it is much more natural and undetectable to spectators in my opinion as you can move straight onto other tricks without having to "fix" the cards.

I have to say, crimping is one of the most sure-fire ways of controlling impromptu keycards for me personally.

The first time I came across a breather crimp I admittedly shyed away from it, basically because I thought it was so obvious. But you really need to have used this in real-world situations to make that judgement, as I know use them often.

And no, they don't kill your cards.

And no, spectators' don't see them.

I use a breather crimp card a lot. I always make a crimp from a joker, so you can discard it after if you like and perform other effects that dont require jokers. But I must admit, I do wreck my jokers because I put a heavy crimp in the cards. not been caught out yet though.

yeah I need to make my crimps less rough because you can see a tiny crease on the cards when you fold them back after crimping them

I am using crimping to have a floating key, which gives you a great way of getting back to square one. My crimp works particularly well with a one handed cut. If you are worried about a clean deck, crimp the joker, use it for whatever effect and the ditch it.

Thanks everyone, I guess that this is to a certain extent another TT moment where the spectator doesn't see something they are not looking for. I have a stack of jokers on my desk at home that I knew would come in useful one day and which I kept partly because John Bannon reckons to always work with one in the deck and partly because I am too mean to throw them away. Now I have a use for them which will confound Mrs Wizz's prediction that "your just hoarding junk again that you will get no use out of".

I use the corner crimp to locate a card behind my back in a deck that's been shuffled by a spectator. Works every time

Scriptorilsky wrote:I use the corner crimp to locate a card behind my back in a deck that's been shuffled by a spectator. Works every time

I do that with a stripper deck but not tried it with a normal deck yet.

No need to bend the cards. I use the breather crimp, which is made by running a finger nail across the diagonals of the card. It is imperceptible and functions really well....

Rather than run a thumbnail across the back diagonally. Run the ball of the thumb diagonally across the back in an X pattern. The crimp cannot be seen.

Sounds great...I'll give it a whirl