Can you guys help me out with a riddle plzzzz?

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Postby Mandrake » Aug 11th, '06, 15:09



PS According to Wikipedia:
Roman numerals use a basic set of seven symbols:

I or i for one,
V or v for five,
X or x for ten,
L or l for fifty,
C or c for one hundred (centum),
D or d for five hundred,
M or m for one thousand (mille).
For the numbers not assigned a specific symbol, the above given symbols are combined:

II or ii for two,
III or iii for three,
IV, iv, IIII or iiii for four,
VI or vi for six,
VII or vii for seven,
VIII or viii for eight,
IX or ix for nine.
For large numbers (five thousand and above), a bar is placed above a base numeral to indicate multiplication by 1000:

V for five thousand
X for ten thousand
L for fifty thousand
C for one hundred thousand
D for five hundred thousand
M for one million
For very large numbers (five million and above), there is no standard format, although sometimes a double bar or underline is used to indicate multiplication by 1,000,000. That means an underline X (X) is ten million.

It probably doesn't help much but of course they use lower case letters as well as upper case ones. Dunno why I thought otherwise!

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Postby Tomo » Aug 11th, '06, 15:09

Hmmm. If you convert to other bases, does that help? It's certainly not octal (24) or hex (14)... :?

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Postby Mandrake » Aug 11th, '06, 15:10

Binary?

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Postby Tomo » Aug 11th, '06, 15:17

Mandrake wrote:Binary?


5 = 101
4 = 100

20 = 10100

30 = 11110

I'm guessing it'll be something mad like base 4 or 5, or maybe the base is conditional on the order of the digits. What I'd need to know is does the kid still get 30 if the numbers are the other way around. Or perhaps "x" doesn't mean multiply. I hate it when there's not enough data to see a pattern!

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Postby Renato » Aug 11th, '06, 15:20

What's a five year old doing with binary anyway? :lol:

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Postby Stephen Ward » Aug 11th, '06, 15:21

This is what makes me think the age is specific to the question. It must have a meaning. Is it possible the answer is not mathmatical :?:

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Postby Tomo » Aug 11th, '06, 15:23

Hang on, it's not based on one of those crazy proofs like 2+2=5 is it?

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Postby the_mog » Aug 11th, '06, 15:32

if you look at how its worded..particularly the "EQUATION" bit.. if it was a simply math problem it would be termed the "multiplication"but its not.. it reads equation in which case 5x4=30 can be correct where x=1.5..... so 5x4 can be read as 5x1.5x4 in which case 5x4=30 is absolutley correct.




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Re: Can you guys help me out with a riddle plzzzz?

Postby Lawrence » Aug 11th, '06, 15:35

TylerD wrote:There was a five year old boy in math class. The equation on the board read "5x4=". The teacher called on the boy to come up and solve the problem. He wrote "30", and the teacher claimed he was correct. Why is this?


because he's five. and it's not fair to ridicule five year olds for not being able to do maths!

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Postby Mandrake » Aug 11th, '06, 15:46

In journalism, writers used to type "30" at the end of their articles to signify that there was no more text etc. This was something to do with typesetters and it was newpaper trade jargon meaning 'The End'. Probably nothing to do with this but I'm clutching at straws here!

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Postby Renato » Aug 11th, '06, 16:14

I really do want to know the answer now...I can't find this riddle anywhere else on the web either, and I've even been to some riddle forums!

But I was actually thinking along the lines of Lawrence's comment too - maybe she was just being kind to the boy :D.

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Postby trickyricky » Aug 11th, '06, 17:06

The Mog has it here i think folks. I was going to suggest it before i read his post.

In more advanced maths you do not need to a multiplication symbol between characters, so 4x5 could well be read as 4 multiplied by x multiplied by 5, or:

4x5=4*x*5=20x=30

x=30/20=1.5

x=1.5



Of course....there is always the question why a young boy is doing equations in class at such a young age, maybe he's a genius or something?

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Postby Tomo » Aug 11th, '06, 17:11

Of course! x is a value, not an operator!

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Postby nickj » Aug 11th, '06, 18:45

Hmm, unless this is quite a special school your average 5 year-old would be learning to count and may have got as far as "adding and taking away", not doing algebra. I'm pretty sure I wasn't even introduced to "the dividing men" until I was about 6. I would certainly be happier with another answer or a question that used a 10 year-old.

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Re: Can you guys help me out with a riddle plzzzz?

Postby ace of kev » Aug 11th, '06, 19:19

Lawrence wrote:
TylerD wrote:There was a five year old boy in math class. The equation on the board read "5x4=". The teacher called on the boy to come up and solve the problem. He wrote "30", and the teacher claimed he was correct. Why is this?


because he's five. and it's not fair to ridicule five year olds for not being able to do maths!


I think that Lawrence might have it here. The question might not be "why is 30 the correct answer?" , It might be why did she say this :D

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