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Postby Misanthropy » Aug 27th, '06, 21:58



I have a problem with this trick. The problem is that Paul Zenon says in "Street magic" after you find the 5 cards you want you should crimp the lower left hand corner of the card before the 5 cards and then cut the crimp card to the bottom but then the trick doesn't work cause the cards you want are stuck at the bottom.

I think he made a mistake with this cause I found it works if you either crimp the lower left hand corner of the card before the 5 cards and cut the crimp to the top (but then you have to conceal the crimp so nobody sees it) or crimp the bottom right hand corner of the card to the right of the 5 cards and cut the crimp to the bottom but its on the left instead of the right.

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Postby Demitri » Aug 27th, '06, 22:30

There's no mistake. As you said - he said to crimp the card BEFORE your five cards. Therefore, cutting to the crimp would leave your stack on top of the deck.

Your re-explanation is exactly the same as the original - there's no difference.

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Postby moonbeam » Aug 27th, '06, 23:02

Reading between the lines I think you're misunderstanding what Paul Zenon means when he mentions "the card before the five cards".
Crimp the card on top of the five cards (not below it). Now cut the pack at the crimp - the crimped card now ends up at the bottom of the deck and your five cards are on the top :?

Does it really matter what side you crimp the card on - crimp it on whatever side makes the cutting easier for you :roll:

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Postby Misanthropy » Aug 28th, '06, 00:42

I followed the instructions in the book which say crimp the lower left hand corner of the card to the left of the deal you want and the photo on the opposite page shows exactly the same thing cause it shows a full house three queens, two nines and a three and he crimps the 5 to the left of it.

I did exactly that with 4 aces (because they were more easily recognisable) and crimped the card to the left of it which was a jack. I gave the cards a couple of cuts ending with the crimp on the bottom and dealt 5 cards but they weren't the 4 aces plus one indifferent card they were two nines, two tens and a 2. The aces were above the crimp card on bottom (the jack)

I must be doing something wrong. I think he meant to say crimp the card to the right of the 5 cards instead of the left one and the photo was probably a reverse of that.

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Postby Demitri » Aug 28th, '06, 06:59

You're misunderstanding the directions. Are you a lefty? If so, then the problem may be that you're not reversing the directions.

If you crimp the card to the left, it will cut the cimped card to the bottom and retain the stock. If crimp the card to the right of your stack, it will cut the crimped card to the bottom, with the stack on top of IT (not the top of the deck).

The crimp has to be before the stack, not after. The directions might be written as to the left - but if you're spreading your deck from right to left hand, it won't work. If you spread the cards that way, your crimp is on the right (still BEFORE the stack). If you're a righty, it's the opposite.

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Postby Misanthropy » Aug 28th, '06, 13:45

Yeah I am a lefty which makes certain things even more confusing than they need to be.

I just got it - I should have been fanning the cards from right to left and crimp the card to the left of the stack but if I'm fanning the cards left to right to crimp the card to the right. I suppose I could always crimp the card to the right and then reverse the deck

Thanks for your help Demitri

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Postby Demitri » Aug 28th, '06, 16:23

Not a problem - I'm a lefty as well, so I always run into the mind-numbing situations. I feel your pain, bro!

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Postby Misanthropy » Aug 28th, '06, 17:05

Demitri wrote:Not a problem - I'm a lefty as well, so I always run into the mind-numbing situations. I feel your pain, bro!


It even says at the start of the book about having to reverse everything if you're a lefty. It feels more natural for me to fan the cards from the left (since I've never done it the other way) so I would be doing everything in reverse to how it says in the book.

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