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Postby David The Cryptic » Nov 18th, '06, 23:34



here is the first real review. FROM SOME ONE ELSE

The X Levitation
Alright, I was one of those who decided to take the chance and just buy the X Levitation and see what would come out of it. I did not know what to expect, I kind of thought it was a scam and did not even expect to get a DVD.
Well, I got a DVD, and I found out that X stands for SCAM!

Trust me guys, everything you saw on the videos before, was fake. There is no way you are going to levitate three or four feet on an open field with this levitation.

The method is horrible and impractical and could under no circumstances be used. I am NEVER going to take my time to construct this awful gimmick that is needed for this even more awful levitation.

He also said that he was going to teach three methods, and he only teaches one and a half.

Now lets break this rewiew down to steps.

Overall look - 4/10 - The DVD cover and DVD look awful. Although this video is obviously ment to be professional, it kind of fails its purpose and just looks unprofessional to me.

Teaching - 5/10 - He deffinetly leaves some stuff out and you need to watch this DVD a couple of times before you get how to build the gimmick, only to find out you will never want to. He does not teach a proper way to clean up the huge mess you have after performing this levitation. The other method, where you get away with cleaning up because you float on an object, is just a rip-off of the Icarus levitation.

Method - 1/10 - Absoloutly horrible and impractical. You are able to levitate for about half a second, and about four or five inches. You could as well jump....or use the Balducci.

Price - 1/10 - Completly overpriced (100 DOLLARS), which is obvious because it was a scam, kinda nifty to get 6000$ for this if you ask me.
By the way, what he is selling now for 75$ he said is "just one method, and it is harder than the original one".

Overall - 2/10 - I will give this DVD a two out of ten, and do not ask me why I am so generous. This was a scam, he lied and posted fake videos of this levitation and I do not reccomend to anyone to buy this levitation or any of his products. He is just a kid that is actually smart enough to rip people like me off, so learn by my mistakes and stay with trustworthy companies like [edited], where you can always count on getting what you pay for.

I am no math genius, but I found out that in this formula, X=FRAUD, and I am not referring to Daniel Garcia`s amazing trick.

Thank you for reading and stay away from Alex Rose and his AX production.

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Postby lozey » Nov 19th, '06, 00:21

Delude wrote:His forum is real professional as well. He said about going to see Saw 3, when surely he's udnerage and just lied to the dudes at the cinema. Tut tut.

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Wheres Alex from? I work at a cinema and had to really argue the toss with some guy from the USA. Back home thay can take kids to see these films because there film certificates are way different and kids can go in if an adult goes in with them. He wanted to take his 7 and 9 year old into Saw 2! (certificate 15)

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Postby David The Cryptic » Nov 19th, '06, 00:59

some theaters here in the usa will let the underage in.

I remember (long time ago) i once had a older person buy me a ticket for an R rated movie, and the usher followed me in there and asked where my parents were.
Lucky the guy next to me voched for me. 8)

and alex lives in New york.

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Postby Misanthropy » Nov 19th, '06, 02:56

Saw 3 in this country is 18 and in the US is R which means you have to be 17 to see it on your own unless you're with a parent or legal guardian.

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Postby Barnabas » Nov 19th, '06, 04:51

Fantastic Review David :idea:

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Postby Barnabas » Nov 19th, '06, 04:59

Dude, you seem to have shown up at the aboslute worst moment possible. Many of us might have put this tread to rest after David's final review. But now that you are here, I guess things will get a little more interesting. To bad you couldn't have shown up at the beggining or even the middle of this affair. :wink:

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Postby David The Cryptic » Nov 19th, '06, 05:06

Barnabas wrote:Dude, you seem to have shown up at the aboslute worst moment possible. Many of us might have put this tread to rest after David's final review. But now that you are here, I guess things will get a little more interesting. To bad you couldn't have shown up at the beggining or even the middle of this affair. :wink:


who are you talking to?? :?

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X levitation, take 2

Postby Themike » Nov 19th, '06, 05:44

Hi guys,
My name is Mike, I am Aelx's manager. I am new to the forums so please forgive my etiquette. Let me start off by saying that a lot of what you guys are saying is true, Alex can be abrasive and at times rude. However he is only 13 years old and has a whole lot to learn about dealing with people and business in general. I am trying to address some of these issues. He was also comtacted by some individuals interested in things other than magic, that's why he's not very friendly on email.
Here is some background on me.
I started working with Alex right before the shooting of the X levitation DVD. It is now completed as you guys know. The reason this whole thing started out so amateurish was in fact because it was a 12 year old at the time, trying to develop and market a novel product. He was so in love with his idea, that all the negative feedback understandably scared and overwhelmed him. He was expecting a grand reception, we know that's not how things work in real life. The moral of this story is that he bit off more than he can chew.
General comments:
1) This is a very neat effect, however Alex created expectations that I'm afraid the effect does not live up to, this is a shame because this product works but not to the extent you guys expected.
2) You will not be able to levitate 3 feet in the air in an open field, I apologize to those who purchased the DVD with this expectation, but that was before my involvement.
3) A part of this effect is similar to the Icarus but is much more simple and easier to put together. Not to mention cheaper.
4) The DVD was shot with a relatively small budget and rushed to get it out to those who pre-ordered. As a result it is lacking in some parts.
5) I am not involved with Alex's other products but would love to try and help if there are questions

I promise to check this thread at least every two days to address any questions you guys have, hopefully we can put some of the issues to rest.


P.S. I'm posting this second time, deleted my first post when I tried to change something, hence new to forums.

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Postby johntheblob » Nov 19th, '06, 09:36

Mike, I dont trust you. I trust the honest gentleman above who posted that stinging review. What I believe is that he promised far too much, and no amount of apology can make up for that. He lied, cheated, and effectively stole from people.

Mike, what would you say to me if I said: I can kick this football 150 meters, but you have to pay me $100 to see it... And what if I took your money knowing full well that I could only kick that football 25 meters, and only with the wind to me back?

I am sorry if I presume to speak for all of the forum, but in the words of Golum,
"LEAVE NOW! AND NEVER COME BACK!"

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Re: X levitation, take 2

Postby Tomo » Nov 19th, '06, 12:03

Questions:

You're admitting the lev doesn't work as advertised, so why was that expectation not corrected immediately you came on board?

Given your admission, what lev was he actually using in the video?

Those trusting souls who believed the advertising, bought the package and are now angry that it doesn't work as stated are entitled to a full refund. How do they go about claiming that refund?

A manager usually manages a person, not a single strand of his output. If you are his manager, why are you not involved in his other products? Are you, as I suspect, a blood relative helping out by fielding the flack?

You see, at the moment, something about all this really doesn't smell right at all.

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Postby Themike » Nov 19th, '06, 18:03

John,
I am not apologizing to make up for Alex's promises, if I purchased the DVD based on promises he made, I would not want anyone's apologies either. If there is a consenus and you don't want me here, I will not take up anymore of your time.

Tomo,
1) I was not at all involved in the marketing of the DVD. I learned how the levitation worked during the shoot. By that time those who preordered had long since paid for it. Inititially I had to base my knowledge on what Alex told me, as I have not worked with magicians before. Now that I know most of the story I'm trying to set the record straight.
2) The DVD does show an original design for a levitation, and a person would be able impress people with it, however the majority of people will not be able to go up 3 feet.
3) Unfortunately there are no refunds right now, especially since once you watch the DVD and build the effect, you will not need it anymore. I know its very unfortunate that people's expectations were not met, but as harsh as it sounds that's a risk one takes when doing business with a 13 year old.
4) I am not involved with Alex's other projects because as some of you learned, its hard doing business with a 13 year old. Alex is very bright, but he makes some poor business decisions simply because he is young and has little expreience. I am partially thankful to you guys for setting him straight and showing him that this is not how a professional operates. I was involved with the X Levitation however, which is why I am here. I am not a blood relative, but I am helping out by fielding the flack.

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Postby magicdiscoman » Nov 19th, '06, 18:24

2) You will not be able to levitate 3 feet in the air in an open field, I apologize to those who purchased the DVD with this expectation, but that was before my involvement.


this clearly is a case for the product not being fit for use and therfore we are entitled to a full refund, expect to be fielding more than just feedback expect law suits.

failing to provide adequate compensation for blatant falsehoods will at least get you blacklisted from the majority of magical societies and i dare say will effect your credentials as a manager, I'm not sure what your us law and moral code is but over here we take a dim view of trying to rip off the public.

i wish you well in your future dealings and hope the stain will soon wash off.

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Re: X levitation

Postby Tomo » Nov 19th, '06, 18:29

Themike wrote:3) Unfortunately there are no refunds right now, especially since once you watch the DVD and build the effect, you will not need it anymore. I know its very unfortunate that people's expectations were not met, but as harsh as it sounds that's a risk one takes when doing business with a 13 year old.

I know you're doing your best, but in law, simply shrugging and saying "ce'st la vie" isn't good enough, because the product can be shown to have been misrepresented. He may be 13, but a purchase is a legal agreement, and at $100 a pop, I'd expect trouble from unhappy and litigious punters.

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Re: X levitation, take 2

Postby Delude » Nov 19th, '06, 20:28

Tomo wrote:Questions:
Given your admission, what lev was he actually using in the video?


I'd also like to know the answer to this. Also Mike, why would you want to work with a 13 year old unless you were related. Did you see you could make money from him or that he'll clearly be a good businessman or something?

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Postby David The Cryptic » Nov 19th, '06, 20:44

but the basic design is not original. Its based on angels levitation. I saw how its done, and its uses a lot of the same things that angels uses. There are only a few differences; him facing you, and the other main is i wont expose. But over all the levitation is not new.

And on another forum alex is promising refunds left and right if the person builds it and is not satisfied with it.

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