GHost Gaff video with a friend of mine
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GHost Gaff video with a friend of mine
by ssick9922 » Sep 17th, '06, 23:25
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by majortom » Sep 18th, '06, 02:58
J0kerz wrote:the 1st one should practice is erdnase color change...
Totally agree. There were some really dodgy erdnase changes in that video, the second performer was better. The first guy flashed huge parts of the 'secret', killing the illusion. Sorry to sound a bit harsh, as I'm sure you're keen to show off your gaff decks (understandably), but a fair bit more practice is needed there before you post it on the internet.
Oz Perlman teaches a great Erdnase, try one of his penguin videos maybe. Or PM me and i'll give you some good tips.
Other than that, it was good, and i can't fault your choice of music
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by Demitri » Sep 18th, '06, 19:09
There are a few areas where performer #1 needs to improve.
ECC is one - as was already mentioned.
The twirl change for the ten of diamonds was highly suspicious looking. The theory is that the larger motion should cover the smaller motion - but in this video, you can clearly see the smaller motion happening.
Ace of Spades - His shapeshifter change also requires some practice. The glaring difference in positions threatens to kill the "magic" of the change. The biggest problem I have with this effect is the spade pip on the top of the deck. To me it just seemed somewhat pointless. Had the other side of the card been shown beforehand (which can be done) perhaps the transition would have been more powerful. Since it ends there, with no build up or point to it, the effect seems a bit dampened.
#2
The first effect didn't do much for me. The way you table the card in the beginning is too suspicious. The change was alright, but again, I think there are better ways to "split" the card.
The six effect was nicely done. A few minor things with the ECC, but you certainly know what you're doing here. This was a nice effect, and a good use of the gaffs.
7 and 6 to 13 - Interesting application, but your handling is counter-productive, I think. Shouldn't you place your hand on the card that becomes blank FIRST? In the way you presented it, the blank card should have been to your right. Is it just me, or did anyone else notice that?
Cracked aces was fine.
The five of spades effect was alright, but I think this was the wrong sleight to use with it. The Snap Change works well for color changes or card changes - here it just didn't seem like it fit. That's just my opinion though.
I also think you need a bit more practice handling doubles. Your motions are incredibly deliberate and lack that casual feeling. Think of these things from the spectators' point of view. You should not be handling cards in a manner that is completely foreign or unusual to the spectator. Anything that doesn't seem "normal" will invite immediate suspicion. There are many times where this kind of natural handling is incredibly difficult, or impossible. That's where you have to rethink the handling from the ground up - adapt your effects to suit these kinds of situations.
Fading queens needs some smoothing. Your transitions are all over the place. Some are smooth and elegantly done - while others seem like you're fidgeting and struggling to do "something". This kills the effect. Work on a consistent pace - either slow or fast - and keep all of your motions and changes uniform - this way, regardless of speed, your handling won't be suspicious because you're doing the same thing every time. Consistency of movement is just as important as the moves themselves.
All in all, both of you did a great job with the gaff cards. Nice work, and keep it up!
ECC is one - as was already mentioned.
The twirl change for the ten of diamonds was highly suspicious looking. The theory is that the larger motion should cover the smaller motion - but in this video, you can clearly see the smaller motion happening.
Ace of Spades - His shapeshifter change also requires some practice. The glaring difference in positions threatens to kill the "magic" of the change. The biggest problem I have with this effect is the spade pip on the top of the deck. To me it just seemed somewhat pointless. Had the other side of the card been shown beforehand (which can be done) perhaps the transition would have been more powerful. Since it ends there, with no build up or point to it, the effect seems a bit dampened.
#2
The first effect didn't do much for me. The way you table the card in the beginning is too suspicious. The change was alright, but again, I think there are better ways to "split" the card.
The six effect was nicely done. A few minor things with the ECC, but you certainly know what you're doing here. This was a nice effect, and a good use of the gaffs.
7 and 6 to 13 - Interesting application, but your handling is counter-productive, I think. Shouldn't you place your hand on the card that becomes blank FIRST? In the way you presented it, the blank card should have been to your right. Is it just me, or did anyone else notice that?
Cracked aces was fine.
The five of spades effect was alright, but I think this was the wrong sleight to use with it. The Snap Change works well for color changes or card changes - here it just didn't seem like it fit. That's just my opinion though.
I also think you need a bit more practice handling doubles. Your motions are incredibly deliberate and lack that casual feeling. Think of these things from the spectators' point of view. You should not be handling cards in a manner that is completely foreign or unusual to the spectator. Anything that doesn't seem "normal" will invite immediate suspicion. There are many times where this kind of natural handling is incredibly difficult, or impossible. That's where you have to rethink the handling from the ground up - adapt your effects to suit these kinds of situations.
Fading queens needs some smoothing. Your transitions are all over the place. Some are smooth and elegantly done - while others seem like you're fidgeting and struggling to do "something". This kills the effect. Work on a consistent pace - either slow or fast - and keep all of your motions and changes uniform - this way, regardless of speed, your handling won't be suspicious because you're doing the same thing every time. Consistency of movement is just as important as the moves themselves.
All in all, both of you did a great job with the gaff cards. Nice work, and keep it up!
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by ssick9922 » Sep 19th, '06, 01:57
thank you guys...
yes i am the second performer...
i know i should have practiced more but i just couldnt wait to make a gff card video...
those are the easiest effects to do...but i need to practice more and learn the correct way to do the change that i used for the fading queen...i am very new to that one
when i was doing the 13 of diamonds....after i published the video (well saved it as a movie) i realized that i put the cards in the wrong place....(the blank card and 13 of diamonds cards were in the wrong place) so i couldnt do much about it then...
so i hoped noone would notice that..
thank you guys for all your imput..i wil take it and use it
yes i am the second performer...
i know i should have practiced more but i just couldnt wait to make a gff card video...
those are the easiest effects to do...but i need to practice more and learn the correct way to do the change that i used for the fading queen...i am very new to that one
when i was doing the 13 of diamonds....after i published the video (well saved it as a movie) i realized that i put the cards in the wrong place....(the blank card and 13 of diamonds cards were in the wrong place) so i couldnt do much about it then...
so i hoped noone would notice that..
thank you guys for all your imput..i wil take it and use it
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by tk171 » Sep 19th, '06, 06:02
Hey John,
I just checked out the vid. I haven't heard/read your full background in magic yet, so hard to say where you sit with your moves... new to them or what.
from what I saw, there is some practice needed on some areas for. There were also some good things I saw too.
Will PM you more.
Is #1 guy on this forum or the NOM as well?
Joe
(from over at NOM)
I just checked out the vid. I haven't heard/read your full background in magic yet, so hard to say where you sit with your moves... new to them or what.
from what I saw, there is some practice needed on some areas for. There were also some good things I saw too.
Will PM you more.
Is #1 guy on this forum or the NOM as well?
Joe
(from over at NOM)
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by ssick9922 » Sep 19th, '06, 06:05
and ya i know i need to work on some moves....some of them i learned like 2 days before i made the video...which wasnt really smart to put out a video already..because i should have practiced more...
but too late for that now
but too late for that now
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by Mikey.666 » Sep 20th, '06, 17:39
yeh colour change needs a bunch of work. it's just to slow mate.
and some of your d.l's, especially nearer the beginning need some work to.
otherwise. niiiiice.
i would recomend doing them on real specators. would go down well me thinks.
and some of your d.l's, especially nearer the beginning need some work to.
otherwise. niiiiice.
i would recomend doing them on real specators. would go down well me thinks.
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by gunnarkr » Sep 22nd, '06, 02:30
The 2nd worst thing you can do, is to perform (or make a video) before you are ready, and before you have practiced your act. 
But the worst thing of all you can do, is to make videos of yourself revealing magic tricks and secrets, even belonging to other people that have spent long time and effort into creating and perfecting them.
I saw some of your revealing vids on YouTube, including where you reveal Mercury, by David Kong... tsk tsk... If you're lucky you'll have Ellusionist lawyers breathing down your neck.
No, seriously... this is very unethical and does not earn you friendship amongst other magicians.
But the worst thing of all you can do, is to make videos of yourself revealing magic tricks and secrets, even belonging to other people that have spent long time and effort into creating and perfecting them.
I saw some of your revealing vids on YouTube, including where you reveal Mercury, by David Kong... tsk tsk... If you're lucky you'll have Ellusionist lawyers breathing down your neck.
No, seriously... this is very unethical and does not earn you friendship amongst other magicians.
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