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OK - it CAN be a borrowed card effect if you ask permission first

dat8962 wrote:OK - it CAN be a borrowed card effect if you ask permission first

They might want you to pay back for the deck after lol.

I've actually tried performing this for someone and doing the preparation right in front of them! They had no idea hehe.

Steve

I have to agree - it's very cunning and there is just plenty of opportunity for misdirection whilst doing the prep.

Just get your spec to put their cards back in the box and hey presto....

Ok i dont own the effect but i noticed a lot of people was worried about destroying some oen elses card. Sankey on Anytime Anywhere raises this point to paraphase "Dont worry about signing some one elses card or deystroying a card completley, so long you are performing good strong magic". I myself also think they get to see a really strong card effect (i saw the vid demo) and have a keepsake. And then you got the whole "It was with my own pack of cards etc etc. Also in the Banachek vid on key bending he says he asks 3 or 4 times if he can bend the key and most people say yes. so i spose if you ask and tell them they will lose a card and they say yes it shouldnt be a problem.

I agree. There's a lot of strength in performing with someone elses cards, or coins for that matter. It removes some of the suspicion in that the magician couldn;t have possibly prepared as I gave my cards to him.

I also think that when returned either signed or torn, the item becomes a souvenir that the spec will talk about and even cherish for some time afterwards.

Imangine being able to pull a borrowed signed rabbit out of some ones borrowed hat you would have a trick and half there.

Magic is always stronger with other peoples stuff, i doubt many magicians would moan about lossing one card out of a deck. and most laymen dont have a full deck ussualy at home anyhow.


Just adding some further thoughts to my ones above. Also if you use a certian gimmick to vanish a 2p you have took of a spec and dont return it 50 times you got a quid do it a 1000 times and the thing has payed for its self.

Hi Guys

Looking for a bit of help, i cant seem to stop the card talking, any suggestions please pm me. Nice Dvd, fully explains everything, specialy like the slow motion section very helpfull, i would like to know anyone elses experience with the moves please pm me so i can talk in further detail.

Thanks

"For those who believe, No explanation is neccesary"

This is really nice. My hands have to learn the new moves, but it looks wonderful. I have always prepped this by explaining there are two ways to fold a card: I then fold it lengthwise and width wise. This also prepares you for the finish.

This really sounds like an outstanding effect, and I really consider buying it very soon, but I have some questions to the trick:
(sorry if this has been told earlier, but I'm just not sure)

1. Could this card be signed? as to use in a ACR.
2. "WARPONE uses a single card from a normal deck" does this
mean that the the deck is normal, but the single card is not?

Please don't answer if you mean that it will lead to exposure, this is not what I want, I just want a trick which doesn't need swicthes or long set-ups.
And this trick seems to be too good to be true, and I don't want to waste money, if I'm sure I will never use it.

Thanks for your time

Nick Madsen

The card can be signed
It's a single normal card from a normal deck. The card is not gimmicked - the effect is sleight of hand.

Hope that this helps

ok. that awesome. and that is exactly what I needed to know. thanks for your quick response. I really appreciate it. I'm going to purchase this very soon.

Nick

I think this trick takes an extra large amount of practice to pull it off well - I have seen many people do it "reasonably" but it still felt slightly obvious, or obscured, or just nothing special.

Don't be too quick to dismiss the original card warp. Ok, it's "covered", but then so is this, just with your fingers - which I think is more of a prompt to the request "take your finger off though!". With the 2 card warp, it's like there is some magical vortex inside there, and because it is flat it seems even more impossible (plus if you bring it to the corner you can actually make it look at bit like more than half of the card has flipped over, a nice optical illusion!).

With WARPONE, to me it just feels like "Ok... so what are you covering with your finger?" and when you reach that point, it's actually quite obvious. The fact that the whole thing is not - like the original card warp - being kept strictly flat but that your hands are monkeying about all over the place makes it even more fishy - in the original, once the setup is complete (which is easy to do infront of people - easier infact, with the misdirection afforded by asking them to fold the other card horizontally), it has a total hands of quality, you can really just hold it by the fingertips.

David Ray Jenkins' performance is impressive, but to be honest I don't think it has enough benefits over the normal card warp to justify the practice that must go into it to yield similar results.

I have to agree with Farlsborough here. I have been working with Warpone for some time now and I find that the visual power of the orginal card warp is just as good and gets equally strong reactions. The two card version allows for more justification and misdirection to set up the effect. And the presentation is much cleaner. I can perform the two card version for more people and my hands appear incidental to the effect. I hold the cards with the tips of my thumb and index finger only.

i got warpone recently, and i must say it's really complete.
it doesn't just describe the routine, but go deep into performance, covering all aspects of this cool trick.

if you have a card to destroy, that's what you were looking for

Probably a stupid newbie question, but what do you guys mean by "the original card warp"?