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For some reason I've just wondered, while I'm sitting here, if such a thing exists? By which I mean is there any method out there for having the face of a card signed then somehow changing the value of the card while the signature stays on it? If so that would be wizard.

I thought of a method for doing this a while ago, but just haven't found a material that works well enough to make the gimick I need.

I'm sure it's been thought of before but can't find anything in any of the magic shops.

I think there is a Mathieu Bich (sp?!) effect by the name of "Erazed" in which the face of a signed card (signed on the face) is removed, leaving just the signature on a blank card. It sounds good but I wasn't too impressed by the demo video I must say.

There's also variations of the effect which you can do by masking pips and indecies.

I won't go into too much detail, but think about it: with some carefully placed digits whilst the spec signs, a heart can look awfully similar to a club etc.

The effect 'Erased' uses an entirely different principle, which is actually not that practical.

I seem to remember on Jay Sankeys Revolutionary card magic there is an effect where a card is selected and returned to the pack, the magician draws a box on the face of an unrelated card which the spectator signs and then the card is changed to their originally chosen card which is now signed.
I think that's how it goes anyway, that's the general jist. I'm sure that effect could be modified for your purposes.
If you are interested I could have a look at the dvd again and give you a more detailed description of the trick...without giving it away obviously.

bronz wrote:For some reason I've just wondered, while I'm sitting here, if such a thing exists? By which I mean is there any method out there for having the face of a card signed then somehow changing the value of the card while the signature stays on it? If so that would be wizard.

Haha!

greedoniz wrote:If you are interested I could have a look at the dvd again and give you a more detailed description of the trick...without giving it away obviously.

If you receive a chance, please do!

yar!

Roland Henning, a brilliant performer from Germany who has tons of videos up on MagicVideoDepot has a phenomenal card effect that may be what you're looking for.

A card signed on the back and the face is torn in half - only to have the face of one half change instantly to a king.

It's a brilliant routine. I don't have a link handy, but I know the effect is called Encore Card Mystery. Check it out - might be what you're looking for.

I heard Jay Sankey's Revolutionary Card Magic has an effect like that. It's called uberchange. A card changes even though it bares the spectator's initials on its face.

Yep the uberchange is the one I was thinking of. I have just viewed it as a refresher.
Here is how it goes.

A card is selected - lets say 4 clubs
It is returned to the pack
spectator is asked to select another which is meant to be their original card. It isnt (lets say the 2 hearts)
A Box is drawn on the 2 hearts to which the spectator signs their initials in order to "confirm" the selection is in correct.
The deck is put on the table as the magician takes the signed card and massages it and turns the card over to reveal the 4 club with their signature.

It is on Jay Sankeys Revolutionary card magic and I must say I like it although I haven't got around to practicing it or performing although it isn't at all complicated in the sleight department. Great routine though

I know a very good method to. It could be used doing signed CTW and also this, signed card change. There is 1 setup, but its easy. Dont know what its called, but I have use it on grandma' when doing signed CTW.

I vaguely recall an effect (may be from Art of Astonishment.. not sure at all), whereby a duplicate of a spectators signature is obtained, without them suspecting. The premise is based around the fact that you mistakedly use a non-permanent pen.... I'm sure that that will set a few cogs in motion.

If I remember correctly, there was an effect with a moving signature in Sankeys immaculate deceptions lecture notes, think the signature moved in two parts? could be completely wrong though?

Just checked it out, it's called bit by bit, the signature rises a bit at a time up the deck, but the card is signed on the back. Seems a bit impractical and fiddly really!