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Postby Perfelti » Jan 19th, '07, 21:17



Do you guys know any bottle productions from a silk without a gimmicked bottle (bottle only, its ok if there is a different gimmick) and with a quick reset? I'm looking to expand my stage magic routines?

Thanks in advance!

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Postby David The Cryptic » Jan 19th, '07, 21:22

I believe one is taught in Visu-Antics. Or maybe it was wine glasses.
i dont remember.

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Postby Mandrake » Jan 19th, '07, 21:38

How about using a Topit?

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Postby JackWright » Jan 19th, '07, 21:44

Mandrake wrote:How about using a Topit?

Yes.

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Postby Markdini » Jan 20th, '07, 00:03

Markdini and David Stone to the rescue well more me then David
You want one of these mate

http://www.magicbox.uk.com/shop.php/sho ... p_782.html and if you need to know how to use it, I suggest the DvD by stone.

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Postby Zarrow » Jan 20th, '07, 02:19

I second the David Stone production, its very good. Had the pleasure of seeing his lecture were he detailed it, you wouldnt need the gimmick if you wear a belt but the gimmick is very well made.

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Postby Perfelti » Jan 20th, '07, 03:27

Markdini and David Stone to the rescue well more me then David
You want one of these mate

http://www.magicbox.uk.com/shop.php/sho ... p_782.html and if you need to know how to use it, I suggest the DvD by stone.


lol, David Stone's preformance made my want this trick even more than before

How about using a Topit?


Can the Topit make large things appear?

I second the David Stone production, its very good. Had the pleasure of seeing his lecture were he detailed it, you wouldnt need the gimmick if you wear a belt but the gimmick is very well made.


Any belt?


Btw: Thanks for all the replys! :)

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Postby Michael Jay » Jan 20th, '07, 04:39

With stage magic, quick reset isn't an issue. You do your act and you take your leave. If you are going to take the stage again immediately following, you're going to be doing different tricks, already set up.

Of course, there are other issues, but reset isn't really an issue on stage.

The "bottle from silk" is very old and can be found in different books under one name or another. A little research goes a long way, especially if you are taking the time to check other stage presentations in the books that you have in your library.

I just assume that you have a library. If not, then it's time to start one when you say, "I'm branching out."

For a bottle production using a gimmick, although the bottle itself is not gimmicked in any way, shape or form, a slick presentation can be gotten out of "That Bottle Production" (Kozak). The effect is using three silks, each shaken fairly and shown empty are gathered up and you produce the bottle from them...This does not use a body load.

It's fairly expensive, but it is one to have if you are exploring stage possibilities. It further depends on the act that you are considering putting together as to whether or not my suggestion above can be put to good use by you or not.

Take your time, explore all the avenues.

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Postby Soren Riis » Jan 20th, '07, 11:34

Miached Ammar has one (from topit) on the "Michael Ammar Lecture 1995" that is awaile on a video tape called "Magic Mastery and You" by L& L Publising.

Usually (in these effects) people prefer to produce empty bottles, but is is entirely possible to produce a full bottle to. Michael Ammar explains how you in practical performing situtations can load the bottle more or less while to talk to people and seconds before you produce the bottle apparently out of the blue.

There might be better sourses though. Maybe, someone can compare Ammars version with the other topic suggestion from here.

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Postby Gracie Spoon » Oct 20th, '07, 01:29

Hi I'm Gracie, Ive been doing using close up in my act for 2 years , please see my intro...
I am also looking for the right bottle production gimmick.
1) I am quite small framed - is the splash gimmick smaller than the kozak?
2)Ive heard the splash can be a bit of a fumble, anyone else found this?
3) Does the kozak require a belt ? as I usually wear a dress , although a belt isnt out of the question...
4) Also considering Burger's shot glass surprise, anyone rate it?
Thanks

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Postby Michael Jay » Oct 20th, '07, 16:10

1) The Splash gimmick is a body load, so you'll need clothes that allow the bottle to be where it needs to be without showing a bulge underneath. Having a small frame works to your advantage, here.

2) Any body load is going to be a fumble without practice. As with any body load, you need reasons why you put your hands where you put them and you need misdirection to hide certain movements (hence, a blown up balloon to act as cover). However, with the proper practice, there is no fumbling...Watch Burton's dove act - no fumbling.

3) The Kozak gimmick is fully self contained. However, if you are doing walk around magic, it won't work for you. It is generally a stage prop and must be in hand at the outset (or by having an assistant bring it to you whilst you are on stage). If you have specific questions on the Kozak gimmick, PM me.

4) I've seen Burger's "Shot Glass Surprise" done by Burger himself. I wasn't impressed enough with it, at the time, to shell out the money for it. As with any trick, though, no matter how big or how small, it all comes down to the magician who is handling it - a bad trick in the hands of an artist becomes wonderful magic but a beautiful magic effect in the hands of a hack is little more than a puzzle, at best.

Welcome to the forums Gracie.

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Postby Gracie Spoon » Oct 20th, '07, 19:00

Cheers Mike,

That has solved my riddle

Thanks

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Postby .:Ham:. » Oct 20th, '07, 19:19

I don't know if this has already been brought up, but I think David Stone has one on one of his Real Secrets of Magic DVDs.

EDIT: Sorry, just saw it in the thread.


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