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Postby tman1027 » Jan 30th, '07, 08:20



ok i think i sent you the wrong meaning of what i said. i want the tee to be different. no one knows who che is. and thats why i have his tee.

che helped his brother i think or someone i dont know alot about take over cuba. he led a guerilla group of rebals and over threw the government. then he got screwed over by the guy he helped“Cruel leaders are replaced only to have new leaders turn cruel!” right there it pretty much says it. he was a brutal man yesb "i know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man.” but i mean he did help the cubans and tried to help more people I don't know if the Cuban revolution will survive or not. It's difficult to say. But [if it doesn't] . . . don't come looking for me among the refugees in the embassies. I've had that experience, and I'm not ever going to repeat it. I will go out with a machine gun in my hand, to the barricades. . . I'll keep fighting to the end.” he was not afraid of death. "i dont care if i fall, as long as somebody else picks up my gun and keeps on shooting"

point is i just dont put stupid s*** on my tee shirt for no reason, im not wearing the shirt because everyone else is, i am wearing it because i respect what he did, i personally think he was a great man.

ernesto "che" guevara 1928-1967

he also went to try to overhtrow another government and got tortured and his hands cut off. there are pictures of him in a bathtub. and they recently found his bones

am i right??

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Postby Marvell » Jan 30th, '07, 10:17

Fidel Castro led the Cuban revolution.

There was an informant in Guevara's group who gave his location to the Bolivian government who ultimately cpatured him.

His hand was surgically removed after his execution.

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Postby seige » Jan 30th, '07, 11:50

tman... I think you need to read a bit more!

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Postby Tomo » Jan 30th, '07, 12:24

tman1027 wrote:ok i think i sent you the wrong meaning of what i said. i want the tee to be different. no one knows who che is. and thats why i have his tee.


You mean this isn't him? I've been misinformed!

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Postby Markdini » Jan 30th, '07, 13:55

One mans freedom fighter is another mans terroist


How comes you dont see people like Cofee Anan or how ever you spell it on a t-shirt? or people who have done a lot of good in there lives and never become an "icon".

It worries my sensatives as a money grabber when people who like money get demonised and people who kill, maime and over throw goverments become icons.

I am master of misdirection, look over there.

We are not falling out young Welshy, we are debating, I think farlsy is an idiot he thinks I am one. We are just talking about who is the bigger idiot.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Jan 30th, '07, 17:25

Guevara's history is a bit of a mixed one, he believed in what he was fighting for. He famously refused to accept his wage as a Cuban government official and instead drew the wage of a soldier. He was fighting for the poor and impoverished.

But on the flip side, he was a merciless fighter and killed and maimed many innocent people. He once said in an interview that if he'd had control of the missiles during the Cuban Missile Crisis, he'd have fired them at the US. If it'd been down to him, none of us would be here today.

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Postby tman1027 » Jan 31st, '07, 08:04

i need to read more dude give me some slack im fourteen year old and know more about che than alot of adults. i strive for knowledge, i see something interesting i like to read about it. for instance i heard about enertia and the first thing i did was get on the computer and read about i mean for god sack my science teacher dousnt know what it is. so i am not correct about all my facts, che did get his hands cut of whether beforwe or after his death i dont care. he did write a book about guerilla tactics. just cuz i dont know who fedal whatever is dousnt mean nuthing.so just cuz i dont know everything about him dousnt mean i know nothing.

how many of you know what astral projection is?? some of you may know some and some of you may no nothing. ill tell you i could write a book about it if i had to. because you dont know veyr much or some of you may no a little or even nothing, i didnt start this thread to be told i need to learn more about it i started it because he was a cool guy and i have a little bit of an interest. knowledge never hearts anything.

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Postby IAIN » Jan 31st, '07, 09:04

a ruder man than i would say pay more attention during your english classes too...

anyway, dont feel threatened just 'cos other people that do know more than you about a subject fill in the details for you based on historical fact...there's no shame in it, so there's no need to react in an aggressive manner is there....

and yes, astral projection is an interesting concept...there has even been rock songs about it - Yes, Astral Traveller for example...

i applaude you for wanting to learn, but at the same time, be careful, as a little knowledge is a dangerous thing...

The Amazing Kreskin once said - when you're young you think you know it all, but as you get older you realise you know less and less...

i'll say this - dont overeact to others sharing their knowledge, that should be seen as a good thing afterall... :idea:

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Postby seige » Jan 31st, '07, 09:23

abraxus wrote:i ruder man than i would say pay more attention during your english classes too...


And there was me about to say that with all the books read and knowledge gained, one would at least presume that if intellect and drive is sufficiet to learn about Astral Projection, one would have taken the time to learn grammar, English, punctuation and spelling.

That does indeed sound rude.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Jan 31st, '07, 11:25

Come on, lets all be nice :D

Tman, I'm sure that no one was trying to be rude or patronise you. And there's nothing wrong with having bad spelling, mine's awful at the best of times.

f you're intersested in Guevara, Fidel Castro is quite an important man to read up on, people were only offering help and knowledge.

I'd also be very worried about your science teacher if he doesn't know what inertia is
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Postby tman1027 » Jan 31st, '07, 17:51

if i came out agressiv i had no mean to.
i just heard about che like 2 weeks ago, and over time i will learn more but what i meant was this place you could share what you know about che not tell me i need to learn more, i started it for everyone to learn about che not just me

and sorry guys for my horrid grammer, english is my worst class. the only thing i failed last turm. anyway what do you guys think about remote viewing. cuz i know how to do it but i really only do things that help me with my magic right know. so do famouse magicians use forms of out of body experiances to do such good stunts. i remember seing derren brown say something about remote viewing.

so should i progress this skill?

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Postby Mandrake » Jan 31st, '07, 18:07

OK but you really need to work on how you present your posts. It's difficult to read and understand what you're asking if the text is random and lacking in grammar and spelling. Your message above translates to:
If I came out aggressive I didn't mean to.
I just heard about Che like 2 weeks ago, and over time I will learn more but what I meant was this place you could share what you know about Che not tell me I need to learn more, I started it for everyone to learn about Che not just me.

And sorry guys for my horrid grammar, English is my worst class, the only thing I failed last term. Anyway what do you guys think about remote viewing? Because I know how to do it but I really only do things that help me with my magic right now. So do famous magicians use forms of out of body experiences to do such good stunts. I remember seeing Derren Brown say something about remote viewing.

So should I progress this skill?
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Postby IAIN » Feb 1st, '07, 10:51

if you fancied a quick test of your remote viewing skills :!: could you tell me what is in my right side drawer here at work? though you can't say playing cards...cos they're next to my monitor...

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Postby Mandrake » Feb 1st, '07, 12:29

2 Rollerball/Ball Point pens and a stapler?

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Postby IAIN » Feb 1st, '07, 12:36

surprisingly...no!

mint-choc digestives, about a dozen cds (music), for some reason two 7" singles (james gang and country joe and the fish) - some random cables, an old defunct digi-camera and some loose green tea...

oh and an old marvel comic from 1967!

it pleases me immensely that there's absolutely no work related nonsense in there...oh a broken pen...

so you may stop probing my drawers now mandrake thank you very much... :oops:

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