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narrow minded magicians that wont try anything new, because their way is best and if there's a better way to be thought up, they'd have already thought of it.

'Trendy' Magicians who are very obviously over 50 with a beer gut and a bald spot twice the size of Dorset still cramming themselves into tight leather trousers and Boyzone reject long leather coats, pretending they're well under 30 to do the big stage stuff where an equally jaded 'Lovely Assistant' is variously impaled with items of apparatus. Leave it to the youngsters who can dance and move gracefully, and get on to more appropriate stuff guys - before you give yourselves a coronary!

Those compression illusions where the assistant is placed in a box and either squished down or different body parts are moved every which way. I think they're cheesy and unrealistic cause the assistant always has a smile on her face when you'd be screaming in pain if you've just had your arm pulled in a seperate direction from your body.

The stereotype of magicians - you don't need to be formally dressed to perform magic (unless you're in a fancy restaurant)

greedoniz wrote:Any magic that uses dance routines and overly dramatic movements just make me cringe.

There's a routine that pops up in most magic documentaries, I think it's the Pendragons, where he's making portraits change and other cheesy stuff. Talk about over acting, every time I see this clip I feel the urge to kill. Or puke.

Everything that uses gimmick cards.

I just hate gimmick packs as well.
I know you can do great stuff with them, but I just hate to have to carry 5 packs to do 5 tricks.
Get a good book or DVD on card magic, 1 pack of cards and off you go.

I also hate magic that uses more than 1 minute set up.
Ok, you can do cool stuff, but if you spend 10 minutes to prepare a 2 minutes trick (I am thinking all the signed label in bottle, multiplying cans etc etc...)

Everything that uses gimmick cards.

I just hate gimmick packs as well.
I know you can do great stuff with them, but I just hate to have to carry 5 packs to do 5 tricks.
Get a good book or DVD on card magic, 1 pack of cards and off you go.

I also hate magic that uses more than 1 minute set up.
Ok, you can do cool stuff, but if you spend 10 minutes to prepare a 2 minutes trick (I am thinking all the signed label in bottle, multiplying cans etc etc...)

Again I suppose this comes down to the circumstances you perform in. If you are working the tables in a restaurant, then your right, though it wouldn't matter if it was a one off performance that night, as the cliche dtates 'it's the effect that counts'.

AndyRegs wrote:

Everything that uses gimmick cards.

I just hate gimmick packs as well.
I know you can do great stuff with them, but I just hate to have to carry 5 packs to do 5 tricks.
Get a good book or DVD on card magic, 1 pack of cards and off you go.

I also hate magic that uses more than 1 minute set up.
Ok, you can do cool stuff, but if you spend 10 minutes to prepare a 2 minutes trick (I am thinking all the signed label in bottle, multiplying cans etc etc...)

Again I suppose this comes down to the circumstances you perform in. If you are working the tables in a restaurant, then your right, though it wouldn't matter if it was a one off performance that night, as the cliche dtates 'it's the effect that counts'.

Yeah fair enough... I just prefer carrying a pack of normal cards, and just go for a while.
I just do not use gimmicks pack anymore, and I haven't done so for the past 2 years... To each his own, I guess...

I've been known to spend an hour or more preparing food that takes me ten minutes to eat. Excessive I know, but I don't regard it as a waste of time.

On the video side, I can spend days or weeksproducing a movie that lasts minutes. Again, I don't see it as time wasted.

True, it's a pain in the posterior if you're table hopping, but otherwise, I wouldn't let the hassle of preparation put me off a killer effect.

Another pet peeve, by the way is the traditional 'card trick' - in that so many card tricks follow exactly the same plot, and only differ in the way a spectator's card is revealed. For me, the most impressive tend to be the more visual effects that don't follow the classic script - torn and restored cards, linking cards and the like.

Any magic that uses dance routines

I sort of see your point but how about the dancing cane? In the right hands the dancing cane is a truly magical performance piece.

What I hate/dislike is a lot of the 'single trick' DVD's that seem to hit the market which are barely more than a regurgitated principle that's been around since the dawn of time, yet the magician/producers claim it to be the biggest thing that's hit the shops since cups and balls were invented.

Also, teenagers who believe that if it ain't released by Ellusionist then it can't be magic. Sort of fits into the above.

Mandrake Wrote:

'Trendy' Magicians who are very obviously over 50 with a beer gut and a bald spot twice the size of Dorset still cramming themselves into tight leather trousers and Boyzone reject long leather coats, pretending they're well under 30 to do the big stage stuff where an equally jaded 'Lovely Assistant' is variously impaled with items of apparatus. Leave it to the youngsters who can dance and move gracefully, and get on to more appropriate stuff guys - before you give yourselves a coronary!

Surely my hair isn't receeding that quickly?

I don't like totally gimmicky card tricks, but I do often use the odd DB, DF or prepared card in my routines.

Lady of Mystery wrote:I don't like totally gimmicky card tricks, but I do often use the odd DB, DF or prepared card in my routines.

Well, the only one i (rarely) use is the cigarette through card...
And that's it.

The things I hate :

1. Sponge ball haters
2. Specs who say Let me show you a trick
3. Animals in magic
4. The fact I spose to like ACrs
5.ACRs
6. Smug magicians who turn an audiance agaisnt them.
7. 10,000 Card tricks all in a row
8. Clows that do Magic
9. My hands
10. That 1089 trick

And some other stuff i cant put me finger on.

All thes big illusions
cans and bottle magic
also i hate hate all these illusionists who make planes, elephants and anything hugely big disapear
Also people who dont put the effort into learning magic properley

The things I hate :

1. Sponge ball haters

The things I hate are:

1. Sponge ball haters haters
2. Card sandwich effects - How many different ways do you need to make a card appear between two others. Been done, got it, t-shirt, drank the coffee, next!