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Hi guys,

New to coin magic but dabbled a bit in card magic. I've started to watch Roth's Expert Coin magic made easy, when he's talking about palming I can see he's using a massive american coin..what would you guys recommend out of the UK coins?I can't see to get enough grip on a 2p (I have quite big hands), it seems pretty small to me, and a 10p is ever so smaller than a 2p! What do people usually use?

Cheers!

a 50p is usually a good bet for palming

You really should keep trying with the £2 coin, it should be possible even with big hands. Half dollars can be got quite cheap but they are about the same size as £2. The next size would be dollar size, you can pick up some real nice Morgan silver dollars on e-Bay for about £12 or so. The next size in UK coins would be Crowns which are the same size as dollars but gimmicked versions just do not exist.

I think your best bet is going with american coins. I used to use english coins because I thought the specs might think its a bit odd someone in england using an american coin but they dont question it. So I only really use american coins now.

i'll introduce my american halfs by saying i like to do magic with coins not our tiny british counters but big ones like thease halfs, its easy to vanish a penny its so small you could hide it in a fold in your hand but look how big theas are they fill my whole hand.....

I practice with a 2p, but tend to work with 10ps the most.

Size shouldn't really be an issue, because if you look at your palm and imagine a triangle on your palm going from below the first finger, below the little finger and the middle of your wrist (ie. forming the recessed area between the pad-like areas just below your fingers, the edge of your and and the fleshy base of your thumb), you're putting the coin towards the corner at the middle of your wrist. The smaller the coin, the further towards the point of this triangle you go - if you move your thumb inwards towards your palm, the distance between the base of the thumb (or "thenar eminence" - hey, you've got to learn something at medschool...!) and the bottom of the fleshy edge of your palm should only really be a crease at the very bottom, certainly not more than 1cm or so. This is enough to palm even 5ps!

Hope that helps in some way.

Hint:

Practice with something thin with easily biting edges...

A recent suggestion I heard which is a slick idea is to machine a 2p so the edges are sharp.

I still find that bottle tops, with their crown, make excellent practice tools to train the muscles, as they are so easy to grip, though.

Personally I find the 50p and £2 coins best for my size of hands BUT -

You can palm any coin with practice

Cheng wrote:Hi guys,

New to coin magic but dabbled a bit in card magic. I've started to watch Roth's Expert Coin magic made easy, when he's talking about palming I can see he's using a massive american coin..what would you guys recommend out of the UK coins?I can't see to get enough grip on a 2p (I have quite big hands), it seems pretty small to me, and a 10p is ever so smaller than a 2p! What do people usually use?

Cheers!

I use the Half crown 1948 it’s a Little bit bigger then the half dollar heavier and thicker its a great coin for learning the back palm if you got Skinny fingers like me you will have lots of grip making it easier to get from front finger hold to back palm with out dropping the coin when straightening the fingers I all so use the one penny 1896 Victoria and the £2.00 pound. I use all the coins for classic palm as well. I have a one penny coin classic palm in my left hand and in my right hand I have the £2.00 coin classic palm and I do every day things leaving the coins in classic palm . I have even tried to go to sleep with the coin in classic palm to see if I wake up with the coin still there in slassic palm sound mad ahahah but you got to try different things just to get better and to make the hands look as natural as possible. I all so use the half dollar a lot to

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I started out with something big and am gradually moving to smaller coins. I actually started out with some big plumbing washers from homebase then to £2 then 2p and am now trying to get pennies palmed well.

I trained with half dollars, but can now palm £2, 50p, 2p, pennies and 5 p's. 2p coins are the easiest though, and half dollars as I am most used to these.

A good tip I was given.. practice palming coins all day long.. if you have 2 or 3 half dollars, palm these and walk around with them all day palmed. This makes palming one easy.

Also, when you go shopping... carry the carrier bags with pinky and and thumb only.. this trains the muscles you need for the palm.

Hold a washer or coin palmed, and continually flex and relax the muscles being used..

All these things help train the muscles. And finally a great way to train the mucles is by practicing the palm to palm change.

Well I've heard to start with big coins and move to smaller ones.
But I'm finding it easier to start small and work up to half dollars.
I can palm 5ps and 1ps and even fool myself with that, but half dollars just don't want to sit in my palm at all. 2ps are good because of the grippable edge.

Is it possible that people hands are not suited to palming as well as others'? Or is it just that I need more practice. I'm intent on not reading another page of Bobo's book until I can readily do all of the concealments in Chapter 1 - BUT I'm having a hell of a time not having my hand look "cramped". I mean - how straight does your hand have to be in a classic palm position? Do I just need more practice?

It's quite frustrating to learn what a zero I am with coins!

your hand doesnt have to be straight.... take your hands off the kepybaord and rest them on the table in front of you in a relaxed position. you notice that they're curved? well thats all your hands have to look like when palming a coin

Well - I think I'm there..... but I'm getting thrown off by the picture on the top left of page 2. Having the hands THAT open causes the coin to fall. I'm practising with CAN 1$ coins. Quarters are lighter but smaller.

I'll just keep practising. There are countless card sleights that took me forever to accomplish, but now I can do them effortlessly - same with hand positions on the guitar. I guess it's just repetitive muscle training.