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I think I've created an amazing Out of this World effect. I sort of stumbled across it as I was mucking around with cards. It got me thinking about Cosmos and seeing as a lot of people seem to think Cosmos is the best impromptu ootw effect out there, I want you to see how it compares.

My version doesn't used marked cards of any sort and the cards are not bent at all - which is very important. The spectator can shuffle the cards. You both choose marker cards and the pack is cut roughly in half. The spectator chooses which pack they want and then deals off which cards they think are red and black, face down of course. You do this at the same time and at the end, you are both right.

There really is no way to tell between the red and black cards unlike many ootw effects out there. The cards can be shuffled as much as they like before they are immediately split into two packs. The spectator chooses which pack they want, picks them up and starts dealing.

In the spectators mind, this probably doesnt play any different from any other ootw they may have seen, but you never know.

The only thing about Cosmos that I didn't like was the mad shuffling at the beginning that you had to do. I also didnt like how he dealt the cards to the spectator. I was thinking about being a layman and what he would see the fairest way to do an ootw effect, and I think if I gave them the cards to deal of themselves instead of placing certain cards infront of each spectator, then it would be a lot fairer.

It can also be done with two spectators and they both take a pack and deal off. No angles and all that jazz. And if they want, you can both stop half way through dealing out the cards and look at the remaining cards to make sure they are both mixed up.

So basically what I want to know is if this sounds like any other ootw effects out there? Just to have piece of mind really and out of interest. I love owning my own tricks and knowing that no one else can perform them

sounds cool.

i like Cosmos, but this sounds better. bronie points to you!

Sounds good.

Thanks guys but would you know if there is one that sounds like this? With the no bending and stuff like that?

not too my knowledge

i've recently gone back to re-testing my OOTW trick where you hand the spectator a deck and ask them to shuffle it as much as they like and in anyway they like. then with whatever pattery rubbish you care to throw in, it turns out they've shuffled the deck so all the reds are now the bottom half of the deck and the black cards the top half.
still needs refining. just thought i'd throw that one in the ring with ya

still say you can't go wrong with derren brown's version

(or capital letters for that matter)

It sounds great Left Eye, well done. OOTW is a superb, classic effect which is hard to improve upon and if you've done it, top marks to you.

Where can I learn OOTW

Lawrence wrote:still say you can't go wrong with derren brown's version

Mostly true, I think. I love the mechanics of it - very clever. Out of interest though, have you managed to get the Sadowitz shuffling idea to work in practice, in the real world?

I find it relies on the spectator performing a tight, controlled overhand shuffle. Most people (and especially ladies) don't do this. If they chop large numbers of cards you can end up with big clumps of cards out of position and no sensible way to correct them. I've tried Zarrowing them and then performing a tight overhand shuffle myself, but it feels a bit lame...
(Btw, I don't want to see any part of the previous paragraph in the innuendo thread. Move along.)

Charles - have you got "cards on the table" by Sadowitz? if memory serves, the mechanics of his shuffle is all explained in there...

I do have CotT, but I'm not with you. The shuffle I'm referring to is where the spectator is invited to shuffle before going into the dealing sequence of OotW. It's a cute idea, but if the spectator doesn't understand the mechanics, you're stuffed!
I haven't got the book in front of me so you might be referring to something that makes more sense when I look at it. To be honest, I can only remember the reference from the tDP tape, and I thought Derren said the idea was published in The Crimp. I will check the book later on though, but I have a feeling you might be referring to the Zarrows in Name A Card Triumph...(?)

no - i meant what i said...

i just thought that there were outs and/or methods mentioned in CotT if the spec messed it up, that was all...

coash wrote:Where can I learn OOTW

Check out Magician's Magic by Paul Curry for the original.

can derren brown's photo version performed with the knowledge solely from the paul curry one

Once the basic idea is understood, there are many non-playing card variations which could be done. Paul Curry's book only shows his original idea but different versions have been developed by other performers.