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Thanks for the informative review - my wish list is getting ridiculously long. Oh well, it's only money.

Yep... the black & red one is sitting in my livingroom as we speak

Can between the lines play well to a large audience? Say 350? Or is it best left for a more intimate crowd?

I'd say that that depends on the performer more than the effect in this case.

Bear in mind, you are working with a single person as a focal point or "control" so to do it en mass might prove of greater challenge... what I'm doing is suggesting that everyone can participate to see how close on hits they get, etc. It seems to work rather well thus far but I'm still in the small (less than 25) group "testing" phase on things. Too, in theory at least, you can add to the ALLUSION of a more broad sense of hit if you use some of the tricks demonstrated by people like Banachek and Cassidy when they do psychological force type routines and follow up with a show of hands, etc.

Excellent. Sounds great. I saw this done a few weeks ago and liked the premise....

Craig Browning wrote:I'd say that that depends on the performer more than the effect in this case.

Bear in mind, you are working with a single person as a focal point or "control" so to do it en mass might prove of greater challenge... what I'm doing is suggesting that everyone can participate to see how close on hits they get, etc. It seems to work rather well thus far but I'm still in the small (less than 25) group "testing" phase on things. Too, in theory at least, you can add to the ALLUSION of a more broad sense of hit if you use some of the tricks demonstrated by people like Banachek and Cassidy when they do psychological force type routines and follow up with a show of hands, etc.

Why is this labelled a psychometry effect?

Because the spectator holds the page the entire time, and 'gets impressions' of what its contents are.

I have been using this a little over the last two months, and I like it a lot. My feeling (although I may be wrong) is that it is more suited for a small number of people, or indeed one, as the 'mechnasism' of the effect seems to become a little more obvious the greater the number of people watching. I'd be interested to know if others have a different experience.

Lee

I finally buckled and bought this one.

Fascinating stuff.

Although I must admit to being a bit disappointed by the method. I was hoping for something spring-loaded with a secret flap. Anyway, here's hoping I can incorporate it into my existing blendo routine.

NOTE FOR THE HARD OF THINKING: the bit immediately above is written in jest.

Seriously, though, I'm hugely impressed with Michael Murray. His persona (on and off stage) reminds me greatly of Ardal O'Hanlon - which kind of sits at odds with the serious image of mentalism - but he's stupendously clever when it comes to magic development. Beyond ESP 2 has resulted in more creative brain farts for routining close-up mindreading than I've ever had. It's also nice to see someone that talented come from my neck of the woods. The mainstream might associate Tyneside with Gazza and Jimmy Nail, but I'm happy that there are North Easterners like Michael Murray and Frankie Stubbs to give me pride in the region and make everyone else say, 'who??'



Pete

I've actually started playing with other means by which to exploit the method but in so doing apply a second method along side -- anagrams.

The idea came to me as I was reviewing Daniel Love's DREAM SIGNS manuscript (highly recommended) and Rick Maue's new piece IMAGINE... I believe the combination of the three principles involved will lend to the performer that "Naked" advantage as Tomo might say.

In fact, once you've bought Naked Mentalism (Tomo's book) - you can easily design similar, and in my opinion, better or rather wider in scope stories with the info you learn from his book...

then the world's your oyster after that...just apply some thought and away you go...

I have purchased Between The Lines, and I have heard tell that there is a private forum somewhere on the effect.

Anyone know if it exists / where it is ?

Email Michael Murray for the password. His email can be found on the magicbox site.

I.D wrote:Because the spectator holds the page the entire time, and 'gets impressions' of what its contents are.

But it really seems to stretch the definition of the term, as the page from the book does not belong to anyone, nor is the reading about the history of the owner of the page, but merely the content of the page itself.

Any thoughts on this anyone? Craig?

Cheers

Todd

DrTodd wrote:

I.D wrote:Because the spectator holds the page the entire time, and 'gets impressions' of what its contents are.

But it really seems to stretch the definition of the term, as the page from the book does not belong to anyone, nor is the reading about the history of the owner of the page, but merely the content of the page itself.

Any thoughts on this anyone? Craig?

Cheers

Todd

I can see what you are saying here Todd but I too see it more as a Psychometry piece or (as I've also used it) Remote Viewing... when I do the RV presentation I a random person to hold onto an envelope which of course, contains the page...this could also be used as a demonstration in Clairvoyance/Clairaudient type abilities (which are very similar to RV)

My primary use of the piece is to find someone in the group to help me with the Seance and thus, I have my little buddy holding the envelope in his hands... I deliberately do not draw attention to it other than to show an old novel with a removed page and comment on how this book belonged to my Grandfather, etc. This is just the set-up to things but again, like the RV approach I have one key person (along with anyone else that wants to attempt the experiment) to just concentrate on things... this seems to work best to my style. I stress that in that others may find the psychometry theme more comfortable but, if I were to create a psychometry routine around this I think I'd massage things a bit such as following up with the page in hand and having them locate "the book" to which the page belongs or something along those lines... there's even a Ted Lesley bit using a ripped out page from a book and his Teleport Envelopes (in the book Paramiracles) that might prove a nice segue idea to this... my goal always being to place the power into the hands of the participant... for me that is the most important task.