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I was going to wait until I'd gone through Michael's tricks more throughly adn tested them out before posting my opions but I've been so busy I've not really had the chance to.

I've read over most of it and on the whole I think Michael's done a very good job. I've seen plenty worse.

There are a few areas that might need a little bit more explaination but overall I think there are some very nice ideas in there.

I will review more in depth when I've had a change to try everything out but on the whole well done Michael and keep it up.

Thank you for clearing that up Lady Of Mystery!

Markdini, I have sent it numerous times to you. Check your spam box.

Thank you!

Michael Kras

Markdini, did you get yours?

ID, I have just sent yours! Enjoy, and I look forward to your review!

Michael Kras

Review?? What Review??

Dude.. Im selling these on ebay.. £1.50 a pop.. market to enough 13 year old kids Ill be rich by 2008..

I cant believe you didnt get these amazing notes copywrighted.. sucker!!


* and yes.. im joking.. again *

In regards to the Marklewis moment:

Now I know why he has been banned from many forums. Look here. By the way, this is in regards to Myself and my friends, as well as the Magic Camp I attended this summer: Sorcerers Safari www.sorcererssafari.ca

MARKLEWIS Said:

"I do not approve of these mosquito ridden magic camps full of horrible 10 year old urchins doing the linking rings and the cups and balls and putting out tricks for the magic community like our child genius member Michael.

I informed Magic Mike who runs the awful place of my opinion a few days ago. He did not seem to share it for some reason. He did reveal however that fully 80% of the brats are not doing magic 5 years later. Instead they are coming up to me when I am selling svengali decks saying "I know that one. I went to magic camp" I feel like throttling the little b******s.

I may see Magic Mike again tonight and will inform him again that he is spawning thousands of bad magicians and they should bring in compulsory euthanasia for magicians under the age of 14.

He doesn't even make any money out of it. Magic Mike and Greenpeace have a lot in common. They are both non profit organisations. He just does it for the love of it. How terribly odd.

He should hire me as a camp counsellor. I would make sure all the little b******s were drowned in Lake Ontario."

My angry reply was this:

MICHAEL KRAS Said:

"Please tell me that was sarcasm!

Yiou have got to be kidding me! This is the best camp full of respectable professionals who are there to teach us and we are there to learn. How can you say that just befroe seeing Magic Mike? Does he know your thoughts on this?

I am truly shocked by this post, and I have so many nasty thoughts about what you have said that I could probably be banned for saying here. Of course he makes money off the camp! He is charging $1000 a person for God Sake!

Please reply. Are you serious about what you have just said?

I am sorry for coming off so arrogant before, and I have changed my ways. I am not releasing any more material. Just DON'T you say a THING about Magic Camp.

Furthermore, most of us at magic camp have multiple years of experience, even professional experience. We have a kid who can backpalm and entire normal deck! We have kids who own literally 1 ton of magic equipment! We have 15 year old illusionists! We have teenagers that regularly perform that The Magic Castle!

So don't tell me we are a bunch of amateurs looking to learn some simple tricks to show friends. It is a hardcore camp with hardcore teaching and magic. It was the best experience of my life."



Michael Kras

He is not making money from this dreadful place full of Canadian urchins that would be better off shoplifting at their age in the way that British children do. Of course our kids are made of sterner stuff. They watch Punch and Judy which is far too violent for mamby pamby Canadian children. And they grow up to be sterling football hooligans who have no parallel anywhere in the world.

How do I know he is not making money? He told me. You must remember the insurance costs for him are trememendous and he still has to pay for the camp grounds itself.

Magic Mike runs this as an enthusiastic labour of love. He is very passionate about it. However he does't have to put with brat kids saying "I know that one. I went to magic camp"

I have just seen a lot of twaddle talked about me on another thread. A couple of impertinent children have had the audacity to communicate with me without having a formal appointment.

One is the rather snooty individual from Herfordshire who no doubt was known as the school sneak and is the sort who will aspire in his future years to be head of his neighbourhood watch committee. As someone who has had to lie cheat and steal his entire life I do not approve of officious busybodies.

First let it be pointed out that I NEVER swear. I challenge anyone here to produce one swear word I have uttered on this forum. I do not consider the word "b*****" to be a swear word. It was uttered on frequent occasions in reference to Queen Elisabeth the first in the 16th century. If it is a good enough word to describe royalty it should be good enough to describe urchins who pollute the art of magic by going to magic camps.

I NEVER attack anyone unless they are foolish enough to attack me first. I think it is a bit rich to say how much you all love Michael after you were all tearing him to pieces (very unfairly I may say so) and I was the only one defending him. It ill behooves various twits to yap about the poor boy being bullied when you have all collectively discouraged his creativity.

Very few of you know anything about magic and none of you are in a position to evaluate this young man's work. There is only one person who knows much about this sort of thing and that is me. I am the only one who can evaluate the child's creativity and the value of his material. I haven't read one word of his material and I have no intention of doing so. However I get a psychic vibe of a child genius. Call it instinct and nothing else.

I may invite him on to a more streetwise place than here where he will be treated nicely by everyone except me. I have been discussing the matter with Paul Pacific who approves of this awful magic camp and is planning to visit the dreadful place. He also approves of 13 and 14 year olds since he thinks he is one himself. He knows all about young Michael.

Paul got great amusement when I berated Magic Mike for his awful money losing mosquito ridden project and was even more amused when Magic Mike was jumping up and down at me getting all excited and trying to convince me that his beloved Magic Camp was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

If young Michael consults with old Michael who owns the camp and mentions the evil Mark Lewis he will see things in a better light.

I expect the child knows about the Browser's Den in Toronto. He should ask the staff about me and he will receive enlightenment in great measure.

He should also look in the leading book chain in Canada in about a year or two. He will find a book all about my favourite subject.

Me.

Truly this boy does not realise he is in the presence of greatness. He will in time.

Hello Mark Lewis,

Yes, you did stick up for me, and I thank you for that. I go to Browsers Den often and it is always a lot of fun. Thank you for your kinds words, and I am sorry for ranting around the thread. I just felt angry, but no longer do.

Also, something I want to clarify:

The Gurcha Said:

"You have a lot in common with Mr Kras, you both prefer gimmicks over true SOH. (sense of humor? Sleight of hand? i what ever you take it as, i dont think you have the ability of either.) "

I am a comedy magician and expert sleight of hand artist. I NEVER use gimmicks for card or coin effects. Really, the only gimmick I use is a STS reel.


Michael Kras

Mark,

My intention was to keep this of the forum.

Your attack on me, and don't give me any of your usual, who said it was you, rubbish, has caused me to defend myself from your comments.

Schools sneak?

I said on an open forum that I would contact the admin and board owner if you didn't apologise for your abusive post.

I then sent you a PM, which told you that I was informing you that I was now going to carry that through. I worded it without any personal comments, but I explained that I wanted to let you know personally, as I didn't want to go behind your back.

Your reply was " Go screw yourself "

That is not being a sneak. Saying " a snooty individual from hertfordshire" is, with the fact you carried it on in a completely unrelated thread, just so you could sneak comments that you didn't think I would see.

Who is the sneak now?

Could I suggest that we both agree to stay of the boards, for the sake of the forum, until such a time that the Board owner has managed to look through any evidence and made his decision?

Could you agree with that? At the moment you just seem to be giving me more comments that I can pass on. Let the rest of the TM members get on with posting, while we sit back and wait for any comments by PM from the site owner.

He really said that to you? I do find him quite arrogant... he has a bigger ego then even myself. He is also rude sometimes, as you have pointed out. As nice as he was when he stood up for me, the trutth still shines.

Michael Kras

Who said it was you?

Young Michael is not going the correct way about trying to influence one of the greatest magicians the world has ever known to look upon him with favour. He really will have to try and improve himself.

As for this Darrel twit who seems to follow me around without seeking formal permission to do so I must inform him that he attacked me first. He also sent me a rude uninvited private message without contacting my office for permission to do so. I do expect the lower orders to go through the proper channels.

I did indeed request him to go and screw himself in as polite a manner as I could muster. Alas I see he has not done so. Hopefully he will see to the matter as soon as possible.

I must also inform the Hertfordshire child that I have chewed up and spat out far worse opponents than he would ever dream have existed. I have associated with people who exhibited their displeasure with me by throwing knives and threatening me with lighted cigarette butts. I am certainly not terrified of a snooty magically incompetent schoolboy who would be far better employed doing his homework or at least trying to learn how to do magic properly.

Again this awful boil on the populace of Herfordshire has been attempting to harass me for ages and ages and ages and ages and ages and ages. Look up his past posts if you don't believe me. I would suggest that if he wishes to avoid reading what I say then he should look at other threads. I am sure there must be one somewhere where he can discuss the 21 card trick.

Of course however I posted here with no intention of hiding from him. In fact I knew he would find me here. In order to catch the fish you have to bait the hook.

It appears that I have done so.

MarK, these two comments are out of order


"I did indeed request him to go and screw himself in as polite a manner as I could muster. Alas I see he has not done so. Hopefully he will see to the matter as soon as possible."

You also said

"As for this Darrel twit who seems to follow me around without seeking formal permission to do so I must inform him that he attacked me first. He also sent me a rude uninvited private message without contacting my office for permission to do so. I do expect the lower orders to go through the proper channels."

I had said I wont go into details on the forum. I have also asked that we both avoid posting until it has been sorted through the correct channels. Mark has decided to ignore this suggestion, choosing to carry on with verbal abuse.

Do you think making these comments now is going to help to decide if any action is taken?

Below is my PM in full, which I sent to Mark. Where have I been rude?




Hello Mark,

I am not the type of person to go behind peoples backs, so I wish to inform you that I am making a complaint to Admin and the Board owner. The mods will not be involved, unless asked by either of these people to intervene. Below are some of TMs rules. I am not going to confine myself to that one post, so will be asking that others be looked at for breaking rules 1, 2 and 5. I guess once I have time later to send the complaint, we will both just have to wait for the result. I will not be going into details by PM or on the forum with you, as I will leave that to Admin or the Site owner, if they so wish, as I have no interest in creating any further arguments. One way or another, I hope this will be the end of it.

Darrel.

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Greattes magician the world has seen? Proves my point: EGO. Even bigger than my own, which by the way has calmed down. You have been rude and arogant and I don't see why you bother telling us the same things over and over again. It is annoying, considering the fact that you praise yourself every time. "I am the world's greatest sleight of hand artist" isn't going to cut it with me. You prove nothing other than that you are a jerk.