Coin thru glass, no ring

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Coin thru glass, no ring

Postby MoBergst » Jun 1st, '07, 17:37



Hi Magy`s
I have worked with my routine for some time now, i would like to get some comment on this. Do you like it? Is it c**p? Is it boring? Please give me some feed back. Thanks
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UrESpjfAmr0
-Morten

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Postby Mikey.666 » Jun 1st, '07, 18:27

I couldn't figure it out :)

Perhaps with some nice patter and decent quality video, you could have a good effect :)

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Good trick

Postby Trickyfied » Jun 1st, '07, 20:28

Great effect, the fact you say 'no ring' in the title is a bit of a give away for the other magicians using a ring but that doesnt take away that your effect is excellent. Got my brain whiring! Well done.

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Postby RobLaughter » Jun 1st, '07, 21:17

Gotta throw in my two cents (American, so it's not worth a lot).

It's a decent handling of an old trick, but is it really practical? It seems like it's geared toward magicians watching over YouTube rather than a real working audience; the angle from the back seems like it wouldn't be clean and what are the odds of being ready to perform this for a live situation when you a.) have to have the necessary set-up and b.) need a glass table. The ring version seems so much more practical, as a ring can be worn daily without getting in the way.

Nice effort, good innovation, but ask yourself if it's really practical.

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Postby monker59 » Jun 1st, '07, 23:07

I think it's a nice evolution of the trick. Even if the ring is a small detail, spectators will probably be more impressed by a magician that does it with his bare hands instead of a magician who does it with his bare hands and a ring.

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Postby RobLaughter » Jun 1st, '07, 23:48

They'll be equally impressed! After all, a sterling wedding band is of no interest to anyone... Why should it make a difference?

That's why I say this is only different to magicians. Ring or no ring, a coin is still going through the table.

Think of things from a lay person's point of view rather than a magician's point of view and you'll suddenly realize that half the things you do don't really matter. Going to great lengths to "prove" something seems to suggest that you're in fact DOING what you're "proving" you're not!

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Postby Replicant » Jun 2nd, '07, 00:23

Even though I can see how that was done, I still think you did quite a good job of it. I don't think a spectator would spot how it was done but you then have the problem of resetting in the presence of a spectator(s). It's easy to switch off the camcorder after the trick has ended, but you would have to figure out a way to "do the business" in front of a real life spectator. Anyway, that was well done. However, I still think the ring version is more practical.

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Postby Michael Kras » Jun 2nd, '07, 00:25

Nicely done, but many magicians may know how to execute it. Not because of your presentation, but because most magicians are good that way :D

I like it!

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Postby MoBergst » Jun 2nd, '07, 10:10

RobLaughter wrote:Gotta throw in my two cents (American, so it's not worth a lot).

The ring version seems so much more practical, as a ring can be worn daily without getting in the way.

Nice effort, good innovation, but ask yourself if it's really practical.

Ciao,
Rob

I`m so thankfull for all you peoples feedbacks. My problem is that i have never had a ring on my finger. I could if i did this infront of people i dont know. But infront of coworkers, friends and family, they would notise the ring and wonder. Almost all feedback from them on my first version "why do you have a ring on". Maby i should get one for daily use.
Once again, Thanks alot.
-Morten

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Postby RobLaughter » Jun 2nd, '07, 12:43

MoBergst wrote:Almost all feedback from them on my first version "why do you have a ring on".


"Because I wear a ring, of course!"

My ring has been called out ONCE in the several months since I got it (until it broke on me) and that was with an unfortunate PK silverware accident. If you handle it like a prop, it'll become a prop. If you handle it like an accessory, it'll become an accessory.

The choice is yours, grasshopper.

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Postby beeno » Jun 2nd, '07, 16:05

When I first got my ring and started wearing it. Friends would comment that I've started wearing a ring. I reply "Yes it was a gift from my sister, nice isn't it, etc, etc......"
Then one asks "Have you got any new tricks to show us?"
Ok then. Showed them beer cap through bottle, jaws dropped. Not one of them suspected anything, even though they were burning my hand with the brand new ring on.

So about 1 minute after showing off my ring, I completely fooled them all with it.

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Postby magicmonkey » Jun 2nd, '07, 19:10

beeno wrote:So about 1 minute after showing off my ring, I completely fooled them all with it.


Same goes with a TT.

A mate chanced upon one that I had carelessly left on the side at home.
"I've heard about these, noone in their right mind would fall for that!".
I surpressed a grin and agreed.

A few hours and 3 beers later I asked him if he had a fiver. The TT was still ontouched on the table, a spare in my pocket. He couldnt believe it when I handed him a crisp new tenner moments later. Even if people know a liittle about these things, they often limit their scope of what they can do to simple classics like silks in the e.g. of a TT.

not a fan of sigs, so I won't bother adding o..... oh
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Postby Kresnier » Jun 2nd, '07, 20:42

There is something is this video that tells me that you were feeling very hesitated, make the moves a bit slower, build some suspence.

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Postby LeftEye » Jun 2nd, '07, 21:11

I can see it as being rather inappropraite for the real world. Great for cameras like the Fan Change but wouldn't work in the real world.

Still looks great though and well done!

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Postby joss » Jun 3rd, '07, 10:54

You gave it away at the very beginning of the video. Otherwise good.

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