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Marked deck effects

Postby Java » Jun 8th, '07, 16:52



I'm about to but an ultimate marked deck and wondered if anyone had any good effects they would be happy to share? I'm tending towards mentalism style effects with it but can see it could be useful to use for standard routines where you might need a key card, for example, but with the marked deck you don't need to see the card's face so more subtle.

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Postby Charles Calthrop » Jun 8th, '07, 16:57

Try this or this.

I don't know if there's overlap between the two books as I only have the second one. It does have some very strong effects in it and you could probably find it from a UK dealer if you looked hard enough.

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Postby RobLaughter » Jun 8th, '07, 17:20

Play poker :wink:

I use a Juiced deck. I tell people that I can memorize the order of the deck after one riffle. One riffle later, I tell them it may take two riffles :oops:

Let them cut anywhere, then just read the marks. If your deck is a decent marked deck (I don't know what the Ultimate Marked Deck is, but I know that doing some "star" work on a regular deck of Bicycles with a magic marker can be a super-cheap and reasonably deceptive marked deck), they'll never notice. Don't make it look like you're reading the cards, either. Hold them up and show them the face of the card while looking at the back. Get one wrong on occasion because "your memory's not as good as it used to be" or something along those lines.

Just a cheap, fun effect that can easily convince people you're a memory expert!

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Postby DrTodd » Jun 8th, '07, 18:43

Check out Al Koran's Professional Presentations, page 63. The UMD is really great!

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Postby monker59 » Jun 8th, '07, 22:28

The good thing about marked decks is that you can tailor them to make your own effects. Of course, you should also learn from the books that Charles posted.

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Postby Michael Kras » Jun 8th, '07, 22:35

Do a Memorized Deck routine and act like you're Rain Man. :)

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Postby Java » Jun 8th, '07, 23:51

Does the memory routine work very well? I'm concerned about using the deck in that way as it's not a huge leap of imagination to realise the deck is dodgy in some way. Reading the card and then using the information at some later time is far more subtle and less likely they would suspect the cards are marked. Do you find anyone getting suspicious about the card doing a memory routine?

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Postby Marvell » Jun 9th, '07, 01:42

Java wrote:Does the memory routine work very well? I'm concerned about using the deck in that way as it's not a huge leap of imagination to realise the deck is dodgy in some way. Reading the card and then using the information at some later time is far more subtle and less likely they would suspect the cards are marked. Do you find anyone getting suspicious about the card doing a memory routine?


If you suspect that, then you must use a convincer of its genuineness.

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Postby magiccb » Jun 9th, '07, 14:28

magiccb reveals all

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Postby monker59 » Jun 9th, '07, 14:42

magiccb wrote:magiccb reveals all


Be quiet.

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Postby B0bbY_CaT » Jun 9th, '07, 16:02

start with an I.D.

first up declare you are going to perform an example of NLP. babble as long as you feel necessary/comfortable with, drop a few "corny" hints and clues, then have your spec say their card, show it's the ONLY card reversed in your deck, hence a successful example of NLP.

return the "reversed card to your I.D. the "correct way around", put your I.D. deck back in it's box and in your pocket in readiness for the switch with your M.D.

allow the debate to simmer a little, how you did what you did with the I.D. ??? etc, inject a few red herrings including "perhaps it was the word's fastest sleight" etc.

OK, now remove your M.D. and suggest your specs watch a little closer this time. place your M.D. on a table and invite a spec to take a seat next to you, suggest they open the box and mix the cards themselves. at NO stage do YOU touch the cards... a fact you take great delight in reminding everyone of...

once they are satisfied the deck is sufficiently mixed, invite the spec to spread the cards out infront of both of you. ask them to "reach in" and "touch" a card, as they do, ask them to move that card forward, away from the others (toward you somewhat if possible).

ask them to gather the other cards and make a neat stack, then ask them to glimps their selected card (which you now know the identity of) and place it on top of the stack.

request your spec now sit up nice and straight... facing you, relax... get them to practice very deep and consistant breathing, be sure to remind everyone you still have never touched the cards... when you're ready, take your spec's hand and hold it in your hands.

next you declare... that unless in the unlikely event they selected the joker... their card will either be red or black. ask them to repeat... red/black/red/black and when your ready, smile and announce the answer. lets say it was red... next you say that since the card was "red"... it is either a heart or a diamond, have the spec repeat this again before you once again demonstrate your amazing "powers". then go high card/low card etc... be sure to look "deeply" into their eyes, maybe ask them to relax and go through the breathing again etc...

the rest is obvious.

i find this plays out extremely well with the I.D. and the M.D. complimenting eachother very well as different ways of achieving a similar "outcome". in the first case with the I.D you are "planting" thoughts in your spec's minds. in the second case with the M.D. you are now reading those thoughts.

i find this much more powerful than doing just one or the other... you can read minds AND influence them at will...

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