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Some random questions about random sleights

Postby Little_Penguin » Jun 15th, '07, 23:47



I am interesting in learning a control called the "Cascade Control", where a card is replaced in the deck, the cards cascaded from one hand to the other, and the chosen card controlled to the top during the cascade. The book I am referred to is "Card Finesse 2", by Jon Racherbaumer. I own the first book, and I am not very impressed, as half of the book(everything but the bluff section, control section, and part of the technical touches) is very niche or gaffed is some way. How is the second? If it is similarly niche? I really don't want to spend $40 for a sleight. Another option would be Ian Kendall's DVD, "b***** Hard Moves Made Easy", but I don't know if shipping from the UK would be worth it (I am in the US).

I have been meaning to pick up the magic magazine backissue that has the "Digital Revolve Pass" in it. Is this sleight worth learning? I could not find a video of it on the internet.

Another sleight that looked interesting to me was the Ricky Smith Cherry Control. I am also unable to find a video of this, but was told by a friend it was worth learning. It is in an old issue of Penumbra. Does anyone have thoughts about getting this? Practical or not?

Also, where is a good place to find hard hitting impromptu card magic, like in Minch's "By Forces Unseen" or "The Paper Engine"? A lot of materials I have are full of gaffed junk or effects with more than a few set up cards. I just need a big book or DVD of good quality tricks to use everything I am learning. I don't want to sift through filler effects, or effects gaffed to the moon and back. I just want visual, reasonably impromptu card magic.

Your help is appreciated :)

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Postby Henk » Jun 16th, '07, 07:13

What about crash course 2: The ultimate guide to ambitiouxs card.

I started out with the 2 crash course dvd's. almost everything is impromtu
and with only a deck of cards, you can do magic anytime anywhere, and impress:D

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Postby kitaristi0 » Jun 16th, '07, 12:57

If you sign up for Ian Kendall's Virtual Session (£30 I think) you get the whole b***** Hard Moves Made Easy thing (with the cascade control), Tops, Seconds, Bottoms, Basic Coin Magic, Poker Chip Tricks and a lot more tutorial videos (you can find a complete list of the tutorials up now on his site somewhere). And they are all downloadable, so there's no waiting for shipping.

Whenever Ian is mentioned here I always say "the quality of his teaching is unparalleled in the magic community" so I'm sure I sound like spam already but sign up anyway, he's fantastic.

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Postby Little_Penguin » Jun 16th, '07, 13:20

Ian Kendall's stuff is available online? I was under the impression it came via CD. I might need to check that out some more. Though paying for the entire package seems a bit much, as I am not really interesting in poker chip tricks and have adequate references for false dealing and coin magic (bobo, etc).

Henk, I am unimpressed by your reading comprehension skills :wink:

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Postby stevebo » Jun 16th, '07, 14:37

I think the Cascade Control is a beautiful sleight and Ian Kendall teaches it well. However, his version of it is not Charlie Miller's original and I am not sure what the difference is.
I am now intrigued about this "Cherry Control" by Ricky Smith so if anyone has a video of it, please post it! :D

I looked at Ian Kendall's Virtual Session and can anyone tell me if it's any good? I know that he is an excellent magician and his sleight control is quite amazing and I wish to learn more :).

Steve 8)

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Postby kitaristi0 » Jun 16th, '07, 15:49

stevebo wrote:I looked at Ian Kendall's Virtual Session and can anyone tell me if it's any good? I know that he is an excellent magician and his sleight control is quite amazing and I wish to learn more :).

Steve 8)


Well I was gonna give a raving review of his site here but I think you already signed up (at least the last registered user is stevebo, probably not a coincidence).

For anyone interested the list of all the stuff on his site can be found here: http://virtualmagicshow.com/vsession/viewtopic.php?t=84

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Postby Little_Penguin » Jun 16th, '07, 16:42

stevebo wrote:I think the Cascade Control is a beautiful sleight and Ian Kendall teaches it well. However, his version of it is not Charlie Miller's original and I am not sure what the difference is.
I am now intrigued about this "Cherry Control" by Ricky Smith so if anyone has a video of it, please post it! :D

I found a video of something called "The Cherry Drop" which may be the same thing, but the kid who made it did it very badly. It was something like card is replaced in the fan, fan is closed, and then fanned again, and then it is on top. I've heard it is very good because it is extremely natural with patter, but than again I don't know if the drop and the control are the same thing. It is available in Penumbra 5, here: http://www.elmwoodmagic.com/full/Magic- ... __1372.htm

Color Scheming and A Double Shot also look like fun effects; it may be worth picking up for only $10.

Paul Cosse (or some similar last name) improved the handling of Miller's original version in Card Finesse 2. Supposedly Miller's was rather hit or miss, and the modified version works all the time. Kendall is the only source I see teaching Paul's modified version besides some lecture notes, so I'm pretty sure you learned it the "right" way.

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Postby Michael Jay » Jun 18th, '07, 05:28

kitaristi0 wrote:Whenever Ian is mentioned here I always say "the quality of his teaching is unparalleled in the magic community" so I'm sure I sound like spam already but sign up anyway, he's fantastic.


I will second that. Ian is an exceptional teacher.

Mike.

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Postby queen of clubs » May 30th, '08, 19:19

I'm not sure at all (because I don't yet own it) but I think the cascade control is taught in Dan & Dave Buck's "Nursery Rhymes" pdf.

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