double laydown

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double laydown

Postby mprof » Sep 2nd, '07, 02:09



The act of placing a double card on the table has been one of the most frustrating slights for me to do. At most I am able to obtain a 75% success rate. I have refrained from doing a number of effects for this reason, the latest being SOBW.

Can anyone direct me to authors who have developed methods that are close to 100%?

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Postby Kemo » Sep 2nd, '07, 03:25

In Paul Harris' Art of Astonishment vol 3 it is explained how to do this for the trick "the invisible palm". Take a look at that and see how it works for you

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Postby mprof » Sep 2nd, '07, 13:11

Thanks.. I just happen to have that on my book shelf.

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Postby RobLaughter » Sep 2nd, '07, 16:19

I hold the double by opposite corners, give it a twirl, and set it on the table without sliding my fingers on the card--just don't press too hard on the corners or you'll have them stuck to your fingers...

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try something sticky

Postby Trickyfied » Sep 2nd, '07, 22:48

If laying a dl on the table instead of turning it over on the deck or holding it while showing the specs, I am not shy to a bit of double sided you know what. Gives me confidence and for some tricks like NFW I allow the cards to fall to the floor, this reinforces their genuiness in the specs mind. Hey, I hope thats what you meant when you said double card

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Postby Tenko » Sep 2nd, '07, 23:06

mprof,

First question I have to ask is, 'Do the double cards have to be tabled' ? You haven't given enough detail.

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Postby da_danny » Sep 5th, '07, 17:17

if u give 'em a little bend upwards they don't slide off..
thats what i do for the trick "The Leader"

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Postby Serendipity » Sep 5th, '07, 17:24

If you're worried your doubles won't sit properly, draw attention away from it. I don't know the effect you're going for, but I've always found that if you give people a point of focus away from the tabled card then it won't matter so much if it won't stand up to close inspection.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Sep 5th, '07, 17:26

I've got a couple of tricks where I need to do this. The best way I've found is to hold the card by short edges using the thumb and ring finger. Pop it on the table and use the forefinger to put down a little bit of pressure when you remove the other two fingers. That way I can nearly always get a tidy put down. Chat with the spec so that you get their eyes off the cards while you're doing this can really help to.

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Postby KingJeux. » Sep 5th, '07, 17:32

David Stone I think addressed this, and one key point is as Lady Mystery said, hold it with the thumb and (well I use middle finger), push down a little with the index on the middle to bend it up ward and as you put it down make the NAIL of your index finger the last part to touch. This helps leave them the way they are. He also gives them a slight flick after bending them upward so it slides a bit, but remains together.

I suppose that's just a little more 'flourishy' though, so just try the nail part.

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Postby mprof » Sep 5th, '07, 18:23

Thanks KingJeux.. the nail of the forefinger is the key. Using the tip of the forefinger can cause it to stick and move the cards..

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Postby KingJeux. » Sep 5th, '07, 18:40

For all the help I've gotten finally I've helped someone else haha! Restricted Access is almost mine! :lol:

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Postby Beardy » Sep 5th, '07, 22:42

hmmmm

I just hold the cards normally, and drop them to the table. cuz of air resistence e.t.c they stay together

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Postby mccabe24 » Sep 6th, '07, 01:02

This may seem very obvious, and you are probably already doing it, but it is much easier to perform this sleight on a close-up mat than a bare table.

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Postby Kemo » Sep 6th, '07, 01:23

mccabe24 wrote:This may seem very obvious, and you are probably already doing it, but it is much easier to perform this sleight on a close-up mat than a bare table.


true but i don't know about you but i don't carry around a close-up mat with me

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