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karl wrote:My fixe residence is in Las Vegas

There's a chance I'll be over there in January or March next year - let me know if you're appearing anywhere in Las Vegas and I'll try and get in to see you!

Just reading through the earlier posts, I wonder if karl is referring to the same PK rings as the rest of us? The Wizard PK (and, I suppose, the clones!) which looks like a wedding band or a plain ring certainly can't be machined or resized but the older style of a signet ring with 'PK' bit added is based on a 'normal' silver or gold ring and can probably withstand a bit of careful rezsizing.

yes I'm sure he's refering to the black onyx type pk rings that or the fact you can machine turn nyodimes to fit in certain ring settings, actualy as seige is going to say you can turn the ring to fit the neo not the other way round.
i used to have a friend who made jewlery and he often put pk stuff in rings for me.

Mandrake wrote:Just reading through the earlier posts, I wonder if karl is referring to the same PK rings as the rest of us? The Wizard PK (and, I suppose, the clones!) which looks like a wedding band or a plain ring certainly can't be machined or resized but the older style of a signet ring with 'PK' bit added is based on a 'normal' silver or gold ring and can probably withstand a bit of careful rezsizing.

Karl certainly isn't talking about the same PK rings.

Neo rings can't be re-turned. Neither can they be worn without coating, as they contain IRON which is FERROUS and suffers CORROSION/RUSTING when exposed to MOISTURE. i.e. you won't be able to wear it afterwards without re-plating!!!!

Any attempt to try to lathe or turn a neo ring would end up with a thinner more brittle design, or as said, it will shatter.

Ergo, AS I SAID ORIGINALLY MR KARL...

YOU CANNOT DO THIS WITH A PK RING!!!!!!!

Please Karl, don't take this the wrong way, but DO NOT give advice like this as it is incorrect. You are either talking about a DIFFERENT KIND OF PK RING or you are plucking ideas out of cloud cuckoo land.

With refrence to the bits you 'strap' to your body, have you ever had the watch strap or other things jump up to it, giving the game away? This is my fear when it comes to using them. I dislike that about my PK ring. I also find that I have to position the ring on the glass screen of the watch to create the effect, are some rings much stronger enabling you to mearly hold it in the same hand?
Thanks guys,

Talking to this with Lord Freddie earlier - the one thing that really bugs me about "wearing" a serious piece of PK kit is the risk of suddenly finding oneself attached to a chair, table or cutlery. I was working tonight with a big PK thing strapped to my arm and kept finding myself stuck to the chair. It's difficult trying to very earnestly look into someone's eyes and tell them that the card they picked was the 7 of hearts while attempting to de-stick oneself from a chair without making a dull clunk noise.

Trickyfied wrote:With refrence to the bits you 'strap' to your body, have you ever had the watch strap or other things jump up to it, giving the game away? This is my fear when it comes to using them. I dislike that about my PK ring. I also find that I have to position the ring on the glass screen of the watch to create the effect, are some rings much stronger enabling you to mearly hold it in the same hand?
Thanks guys,

I use a B*t and attach it to me knee with two or three elastic bands so it's quite tight against the knee (leaves a few lines aftewards!). I try and use a table with out metal bars underneath it and postition my leg in an area where it's just the wooden table top. When you raise you knee the watches stop.
It's guaging the distance and being wary around anything metal. I find the knee better than the wrist as it's less like to come into any contact with anything metal such as door handles, etc.
The right kind of table is needed. Avoid ones with metal beams underneath.

My personal most embarrasing PK experience was attaching my knee-strapped 'item' by accident to a chaps NHS 'crutches'. (Yes, there's a U in there, not an O).

I really didn't have time to formulate an excuse, so just removed the offending article and carried on.

I must say, I bet there was puzzlement as to why I would move someone's walking aid like that. Perhaps they thought I was a faith healer?

"BE GOWN, DAYMONS, LEAVE OWWA BRUTTHA AND LET HYMN WALLLK AGAYYYYYN"

seige wrote:My personal most embarrasing PK experience was attaching my knee-strapped 'item' by accident to a chaps NHS 'crutches'. (Yes, there's a U in there, not an O).

I really didn't have time to formulate an excuse, so just removed the offending article and carried on.

I must say, I bet there was puzzlement as to why I would move someone's walking aid like that. Perhaps they thought I was a faith healer?

"BE GOWN, DAYMONS, LEAVE OWWA BRUTTHA AND LET HYMN WALLLK AGAYYYYYN"

Thats brilliant! Thanks for the advise guys,
I agree the knee sounds like a safer place to strap it

Freddie, if you get a moment can you pm me some advice on the best 'device' to get, big bertha etc. Or is a B*T sufficiant to stop watches through a table and to be used on my arm away from the face so as not to cause attention? thanks guys.

Tricky...

A Monster Bertha worn on the knee is ample.

The new config of Bertha (4 x block magnets) lets you use them to a strength you need. Just add until desired power is gained. Just two of them on the leg is enough.

Alternatively, for a watch stop... have you considered a gaffed TT ???

Full of wisdom Seige! A gaff TT would work excellently I will try it with one of the many m****** that I have from other tricks. What I like about magic is that its the simple things that confound the wise,

Well, good day to everyone.
(sorry for my bad spelling)
I can see that this subject has attract quite some interesting answers,
and that all come from respectfull personages. Thank you gentlemans.
I WILL HERE BY ANSWER ALL OF YOU ONE BY ONE

LET START FROM THE BEGINING.
If you read carefully my topic, i say and repeat again what i sad at
the very begining
"But, always WITH OUT A PK RING ON ME; If some of you will like to know, I dont mint to tell you , but you have to send a PM to me."
and thats right

BUT I DID'NT mention at all that i WAS NOT USING "PK MAGNETS"
Of course i do, like most of as (see title of this reply in witch i underline the world "ring"
in my very well respected opinion (I hope), you can produce exactly the same effect, with out the need of wearing one of those rings, witch very often are detected, or look suspicious. and please forget magnets on your wrist or arms ,(my opinion)
NOW all of you can understand why i was saying that YES NEO "magnets" can be rezised (if needed)

TO MR L.FREDDIE:
concerning your mention in your reply, about the black magic stuff???
You WONT beleave to witch point, this poeple beleave in such a possibility.
Actually all type of magic here is related with the "diable", and listen to this:
When i do impromptus in the street or at any popular cafee place (very popular here), sometimes, the guy infront of me to witch i am doing an effect YOU SEE HIM MUMBLING, while I am acting
HE IS ACTUALLY DOING SOME INSIDE PRAYING AGAINST THE DIABLE"
This is not a joke.
Thanks god that type of audiences are not what I get usually when i work.

INTELLECTUALS:
But the thing is that, one may think that the other ones are differents?
Yes there are another types of audiences for witch i usualy work, who have expensive mercedes, big villas houses, a yatch.....wearing silk trousers....
BUT you be amaze, when talking to them, the type of questions that they ask me after a show.
THEY DO REALLY BELEAVE IN WHAT I DO.
a MONTH AGO, I gave a MENTAL LECTURE FALLOW BY SOME DEMONSTRATIONS of what you can do with your mind when well used, at the TECKNOLOGYCAL FACULTE OF SCIENCES (university) for all students and professors, (using all sorts of tecknical and electronical suports, like, cerebro 3, 8th senses, Midas, ESP cesaral calculator, including MY LATEST book test, (not marketed yet) (whant info? ask for it)
and i can tell you that I had all eating from the palm of my hands.
And the questions after the show , was most incredibly simplist and related with god and diable.

TO MR MANDRAKE
Yes, you talk about wedding rounded rings, and also so call Signed rings.
I tottally agreed with your comment, but the fact is that I was myself speeking about the fact that I NEVER USE "RINGS" MYSELF

There are onother ways to produze same effects, and you are clean.
I never sad that I dont use Magnets . I do (over 20 years)
Concerning Las Vegas , I be delighted to meet you.

TO MR SIEGE
Same thing here: I speek about me NOT using rings, but i do use neo M.

ANACDOTES
Oh boy, I could tell you so many, like the ones you have described here.

YES, its has hapen to me also to be totally attach by a table.
It was one of those who have crussed metalic barsundernith (spelling ?)
Before I preforme, and whille seating , i casually tuch undernith the table to figure out the angles i have, and i had mist messure this, and when i did aproach my knee to it, we hear a big BANG, and sudently you have one of the fork lying aroud who stud completly UP in vertical and very erotical position, mooving from right to left very sweetly in a kind of provocatic action/

No need to say, that i reacted very quikly, an start placing my hands around with very magical gestures to show that my fluid (?) energy was overblowing that day.

After a couple of seconds, i pick it up, and cary on with my original routine.
I have try after at home to do the same effect, and i call it ;
"THE ERECTED FORK"

Anyway and seriously speeking now, I personally use and like most of all
all sorts of NEOMINIUM MAGNET
I use two in each knee, a one miniature one in a special way.

I wont say more here.
If some one like information about my system, send pm with your private emaill adress, and will help you with
will also sent a couple of videos about me doing

contact directly if wanted to:
cpblune@yahoo.fr

We are making a new webb site, not finish yet, working on it today, but can have a look at:*

http://bravosky.freehostia.com

Thank you ALL for this good time
karl

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