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ive been thinking of buying one of these
its both from noblezada
http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1671
this is the sponge video
and this is the muscle pass
http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1642
i think i can do the muscle pass, but its a bit hard and i think im doing it wrong..and i want to know more tricks with it...but i never even touched a sponge ball, and i just want to see what there like and if its fun to use..
so what's better?thank you so much for your time, and please replay quickly..

go for the sponge one lots of tricks and sponges apeal to drunk adults and children alike,plus you'll learn valuble slieghts you can use with everyday items and coins too.
on top of that your presentation skills will improve as your confidence with sleights improves and of cause your not gettting a one trick pony.

I'd go for the sponge balls, they're brilliant fun for just about any audience.

Sponge Balls...

They are great fun

FRK wrote:Sponge Balls...

They are great fun

Not only great fun, but easily portable, universally acceptible, and most of all, VISUAL.

I'm not really adding anything, but in my opinion, it's got to be the sponge ball one. Far more versatile and far more interesting.

im gna be different and say muscle pass as im really not a fan of sponge balls and a big fan of coins so my opinion is biased....
but the muscle pass dvd looks great and has some good reviews...

Surely there's only so much you can have on a DVD about the muscle pass? i.e., either you can do it or you can't. If you can do it there are two? three? different effects to use it for and maybe a switch. Sponge balls are just way more versatile. Sponges all the way.

kati

thats a valid point but i guess i just love coins...

Au contraire Kati, you can use the muscle pass for loads of stuff. If you take the time to learn it properly and use a bit of lateral thinking there's plenty of applications.

bronz wrote:Au contraire Kati, you can use the muscle pass for loads of stuff. If you take the time to learn it properly and use a bit of lateral thinking there's plenty of applications.

this is very true. Vanishes, Productions, transpositions, transformations, there so much you can do with it. And passes are just great to know.

To add my two-penneth, I'd go for the sponge balls as they are so diverse and can appeal to adults and kids alike. I only got into using them this year and found them to be immense fun.

Actually I am quite a fan of the sponges. I would go for that. The muscle pass seems to be a bloke sitting in a pub saying i can muscle pass and you cant. Aint that right Bronzy?

I believe the muscle pass is a lot more versatile than many people give it credit for. If you can do a good muscle pass I think you have a very useful coin sleight at your disposal, with many applications. Having said that, I would go with the sponge balls at this time.

I've seen 3 different tutorials on the muscle pass, and they all contradict each other.
One will say make sure you do "this" and another say's make sure you don't do "this".
And not one of them goes deep enough on the mechanics of the move for my liking.
So if you can do the muscle pass, then don't buy any videos teaching it.