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heads or tails? my new version of a familiar trick..

Postby joecarr14 » Oct 26th, '07, 13:59



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syh9pETIN1c
heres a trick i made up (i call it 'heads or tails' as it starts off as misdirection as they have no idea about the card which is what i think makes it effective), combining an old one and a pretty well known one which i learnt off my friend (you'll already know it so you will probably know what happens)... my mate couldnt resist showing me the more familiar one's secret because i guessed wrongly where it went the first time i saw it....
anyway its simple and ive never practiced it but today i had the idea for this trick and was hoping for some feedback... please try and make it helpful and ignore the bit at the end i was just messing about (the fact im so close to the camera may also reveal the trick so i may make a new video).... :) thanks joecarr14 (if i get good reviews ill practice it till its seamless and not so obvious what happens, if not ill leave it..)
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ps.this trick does work on the layman i tried it out on my mum and bro and they both fell for it... and i claim no rights to owning this trick..

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Postby Demitri » Oct 26th, '07, 16:45

Your flash isn't a result of distance to the camera - it was a result of lack of rehearsing. You need to work on that move a bit.

Overall, the effect is nice - but the finish detracts from what you're trying to do. You start with a coin - ask heads or tails - and then finish with the vanish of the coin and the appearance of a card that says heads. This is fine. You then go on to do a vanish and reappearance of the folded card.

Why?

There's no reason for this part of the effect. The change to the card from coin is illogical, but you've grounded it by bringing it back to "heads or tails". The remainder of the effect breaks the logic. Aside from being a less than impressive vanish and reappearance - it breaks the flow of the original effect.

I think a better finish, would be to have the card change from heads to tails. With a little thought, you can easily work this into the effect. This way, it gives you another "effect" in the routine - but it still follows the original logic.

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Postby joecarr14 » Oct 26th, '07, 20:56

i think thats true and yes i havent rehearsed it before but if people like the idea then i will try and improve it... thanks again for the feedback and yeh the bit at the end was a mess about i said so on the video and at the start and when i perform it in person, i leave that bit out...

i also have an idea to have 2 different cards and then when they say heads or tails i can change it so one could be finger palmed and one palmed so they are right whatever they guess and this could be more magical.... :) thanks for taking the time to criticize and comment it...

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Postby joecarr14 » Oct 28th, '07, 17:11

ps. edited video

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Postby BadHero » Oct 28th, '07, 22:10

is that using the revolution technique?

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Postby joecarr14 » Oct 29th, '07, 08:17

yes i claim no rights to owning the trick this is just a variation idea i had... :) ive never used it before i just had the idea and so i thought it could work well with the revolution if this video gets a good response ill practice it more... :D

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Postby Soren Riis » Oct 29th, '07, 09:15

I disagree with the negative comments above. Your idea would not work well for the kind of mentalist magic I am doing, however I think you have invented an EXCELLENT opener that suits many types of magic. Even the most astute professional need to have a few fast openers that easily gets people involved.

With this effect you can walk up to people and aks if they prefer heads or tails. I would NOT use two distinct cards but use MC. Simply ask one of the spectators you just approached if they prefer heads or tail. If they choose head say fine and change the coin into the card marked "head" . If they choose tail, say "OK, I choose head" and produce the card. You win both ways.

You might decide to reproduce the coin, and pull it from someone ear or produce in some other fashion. In general I think the opener goes well with kind of lighthearted magic presented in a funny and entertaining way.

Anyway I think you invented a great opener that might work well in practice.

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Postby joecarr14 » Oct 29th, '07, 17:14

thanks for that as i was not so sure about it but yeh it is a great little trick and im glad you appreciate it, its only a lighthearted little piece of magic and i will try and develop it and do an improved video because at least one person likes it!! thanks again for the comments and criticism...

ps. it does work well on the layman as ive tried it out and people seem to love it... its entertaining, visual, suprising and fun!! xD

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Postby BadHero » Oct 30th, '07, 06:03

ice always hated it because it looks so obvious, but watching you do it, i knew by the performance what trick it was but didnt see anything out of ordinary, looked good.

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Postby joecarr14 » Oct 30th, '07, 08:12

thanks thats exactly what i hated about revolution but when you put the coin down there after calling heads or tails its completely natural and it usually goes on the back of your hand anyway....

i may do a new video with it a little less obvious but at the moment my friends have seen it and they cant work it out... :D

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Postby BadHero » Oct 30th, '07, 08:53

well yeah, i have watched the DVD and know hows it done, but for ppl that havnt, and if its done smoothly, itl look awesome.

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well done

Postby Trickyfied » Oct 30th, '07, 18:06

I agree, the layman will not spot the method of vanish however your jeans seem a little twisted like the pocket is sitting on your front and your shirt is swept back on that side, I think you should eliminate those 'signs' to have a really cool trick without fear of detection. Watching your video is allways the best way of improving. Great 8)

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Postby Jacko Spaids » Oct 30th, '07, 18:51

yeah only thing i hate is, i never tuck in my shirt so....well i dont wanna sell out the effect....but for those who already know, u catch my drift.

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Postby joecarr14 » Oct 30th, '07, 19:00

thats the reason i want to re-film it but so far no layman has worked it out fromm the video so im being lazy and not re-filming it yet but yeh i know what you mean that was my only negative about the video is the way my top is swept back but if i didnt wear that top people would obviously see my shirt tucked in... anyway im improving it now as that was the first time i used it.... thanks again for crits.... :D

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Postby Jacko Spaids » Oct 30th, '07, 19:07

when i first saw it done i was amazed, its so funny how simple some things can be yet they can still get such a powerful result.

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