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Postby DrTodd » Dec 16th, '07, 15:44



I have a general objectioon to ascriptive forms of authority (here or anywhere) and I am devout capitalist who believes in merit-based achievements rather than birth right entitlements.

You may well want to fight for the royals, but I doubt they would even let you in their club :lol:

I chose to come here because of a wonderful academic opportunity and the UK has been perfect for my many pursuits, including magic and mentalism. I also love it because we can have this free debate in the absence of censorship.

If you want me to criticise the US, that's easy too...it is currently undoing most of what it and the UK had sought to achieve by being the main architects of the international human rights regime set up after the defeat of the nazis (another irony given the link to the defeat of fascism mentioned earlier).

I do not think the publication and exposure of magic secrets was politically or ideologically motivated, it was simply an ill-conceived editorial decision that was not thought through carefully enough.

Linking the decision to human rights, asylum seekers, and terrorists seems misplaced, unhelpful, and a typical populist move. Rather, we need a collective rejection of the decision and to give voice to our displeasure at the publication, which is what I have done and ask all of us to do as well. If voice does not work, then we exercise exit, in which case I boycott the Guardian. I can recommend Hirschman's Exit, Voice and Loyalty in this regard.

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Postby IAIN » Dec 16th, '07, 15:46

bronz wrote:I love the internet. Where else could a conversation about the ethics of diclosing secrets to those who are apparently undeserving turn into a full-fledged handbags at dawn scrap over whether or not Socialism is an effective system of government.

Though my personal knowledge of certain participants leads me to believe that tongues are in cheek here maybe it's time to sit back and vent your spleen to the editor of your newspaper of choice eh lads?


if only if it was funny though! rather than a very poor hybrid impression of mark lewis and ben elton...

according to the Darwin Awards, they reckon that its time for discussions to end when people start mentioning politics or hitler...

so...despite where one of his spongeballs may be...hitler...

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Postby Markdini » Dec 16th, '07, 15:46

The first Uni was set up by a king..Anyway glad you come round to Mine and His Lordships way of thinking.

How do I boycott something I dont read?

I am master of misdirection, look over there.

We are not falling out young Welshy, we are debating, I think farlsy is an idiot he thinks I am one. We are just talking about who is the bigger idiot.

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Postby IAIN » Dec 16th, '07, 15:49

Markdini wrote:The first Uni was set up by a king..Anyway glad you come round to Mine and His Lordships way of thinking.

How do I boycott something I dont read?


ach! anyone who feels passionately enough about magic, e-mail or write to them...end of...its better than bleating on here...

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Postby DrTodd » Dec 16th, '07, 15:49

Markdini wrote:The first Uni was set up by a king..Anyway glad you come round to Mine and His Lordships way of thinking.

How do I boycott something I dont read?
In what way have I come round to your way of thinking? I reject your entire premise and point of view.

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Postby Markdini » Dec 16th, '07, 15:51

abraxus wrote:
Markdini wrote:The first Uni was set up by a king..Anyway glad you come round to Mine and His Lordships way of thinking.

How do I boycott something I dont read?


ach! anyone who feels passionately enough about magic, e-mail or write to them...end of...its better than bleating on here...


I am an Englisman first and a Magician second.

Dr it was sarcasim

I am master of misdirection, look over there.

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Postby DrTodd » Dec 16th, '07, 15:53

Markdini wrote:
Dr it was sarcasim


oh that....

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Postby Lord Freddie » Dec 16th, '07, 16:26

abraxus wrote:
so...despite where one of his spongeballs may be...hitler...


He did some bad things but he didn't stop you smoking in a pub. And the buses ran on time. And his moustache inspired both Blakey from "On Th Buses" and Ron Mael in Sparks. And he did a mean cup and 'ball' routine (so I hear).

There's good in everyone.

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Postby Markdini » Dec 16th, '07, 16:44

And he knew how to put on a show. I mean who wouldnt want that stage presance?

I am master of misdirection, look over there.

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Postby Lord Freddie » Dec 16th, '07, 17:24

I could see him fronting Queen..moustache...good outfits...prancing around...
Don't know what his singing voice was like though...

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Postby LeftEye » Dec 16th, '07, 18:58

Lord Freddie wrote:I could see him fronting Queen..moustache...good outfits...prancing around...
Don't know what his singing voice was like though...


I think Al Murray does quite an accurate impression of Hitler's singing.

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Postby Markdini » Dec 16th, '07, 19:02

Al also toasts the queen. Makes you proud.

If people dont like the queen why are they so willing to carry her picture in there wallets?

I am master of misdirection, look over there.

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Postby IAIN » Dec 16th, '07, 19:28

Markdini wrote:Al also toasts the queen. Makes you proud.

If people dont like the queen why are they so willing to carry her picture in there wallets?


if you could offer me an alternative then i would...i cant fit a pig in my wallet, and we stopped trading lifestock for goods for at least 3 months now...

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Postby Lord Freddie » Dec 16th, '07, 19:41

God bless 'em all. And Harry, he's a fine example to the nation's youth and deserves to be king. He'd go off and have battles like the old kings used to.
With him at the reins we'll have the Empire back in no time!

It's funny how wishy-washy liberals get all uptight about a few American teenagers badly showing you how to do a magic trick on youtube, but when their beloved propaganda rag gives away a book to all it's readership explaining many secrets of magic, it's seemingly ok. It's worse.

Next time I perform for some bearded social workers at a Free Tibet charity bash, inbetween the tofu and organic vegatable buffet and world music disco, they'll know I'm doing a D/L and smugly say so.

Pah!

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Postby Markdini » Dec 16th, '07, 19:41

Thats Essex for you squire.

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