ID, how to improve handling.

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ID, how to improve handling.

Postby deanos123 » Jan 18th, '08, 22:42



without giving to much away, do you know of anything that can aid me in the handling of the ID? I get a little heavy handed when I'm nervous and the cards don't behave themselves, (I'm sure you know what I mean) is there anyway of making the behave themselves? you know more easily? I seem to be messing it up alot.

Or maybe i just need a bit of practice handling them!

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Postby Michael Jay » Jan 18th, '08, 23:00

If you handle them perfectly in practice, then it IS your nerves getting to you. This happens, but it is overcome with time (being in front of an audience, even just friends and relatives, can be a daunting thing to do your first few times) and confidence (which, of course, also comes with time).

If you have this problem (albeit not quite as acute) while practicing alone, then you may have slightly "slippy" fingers - dry skin. A good lotion, worked into your hands may just take care of the situation. Try not to wash your hands too often during the day, as this sucks out your hands natural moisture.

Mike.

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Postby TheWickedWitchOfTheWeb » Jan 19th, '08, 01:50

Or maybe give them another RF treatment, aid them in doing what they should be?

I've heard that some purchased decks scrimp a bit on the coating, if you're using a purchased deck rather than a self made one then the problem might not actually be you.

Just a thought.

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Postby Marvo Marky » Jan 19th, '08, 17:06

Hi there. I put this in your other post about resealable decks:

deanos123 wrote:do you know of anything that can aid me in the handling of the ID? I get a little heavy handed when I'm nervous and the cards don't behave themselves, (I'm sure you know what I mean) is there anyway of making the behave themselves? you know more easily? I seem to be messing it up alot.

It could be a handling problem; remember, a heavy touch when spreading normally, a lighter touch for the reveal of the card. Try to look a few cards ahead in the spread so you can anticipate the move and so there isn't a suspicious delay when the magic occurs.
Have a look at how quickly and smoothly Bill Malone does this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m2CqYGvSxQ

Otherwise it could be a problem with the ID.
I notice that the IDs come from the manufacturer a little bit 'under magicked'.
You can 're-magic' the cards by using 'magic fluid' (r******* spray).

I hope that helps since the name of the stuff in question would surely expose.

PM me if that makes no sense. :D

Mark

EDIT: Actually if you have never used r******* spray before, then there is a certain skill involved. Have a search on here, or drop me a PM and I'll be quite happy to explain. :D

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Postby deanos123 » Jan 20th, '08, 17:07

yeah sorry mark i was meant to remove it from my other post and just have this one, never mind thanks for the response. I did PM you by the way asking for the name of r******* spray and what it actually is.

Thanks guys for your replies, i did have a practice over and over and i seem to have found my own sure way of handling the cards very well, i think the way i was doing it before was a bit to heavy handed. And of corse the nerves of doing this trick for the first time makes me loose control of the way i handle them. and of corse control is everything when doing magic?!?!

anyway i checked out that Bill Malone guy on youtube and all i have to say is WOW! that guy knows how to handle cards, i liked Sam the Bellhop the best, that was truely amazing! and the way he presented the ID trick! damn i'd like a DVD on this guy if there is one!

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Postby deanos123 » Jan 20th, '08, 17:11

sorry Bill Malone - Cheating in Las Vegas With the Aces, that is even better, my god!

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