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ok guys im thinking of getting a raven. i know that is one of the best coin vanishes in magic, but what is the most flaw?

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Decipi wrote:ok guys im thinking of getting a raven. i know that is one of the best coin vanishes in magic, but what is the most flaw?

You bumped a nearly 5 year old thread to "review" the Raven yet you don't own one? Odd.

Hi Decipi,

I personally don't like the Raven and think that Subterfuge is a far superior vanish, My Kids and wife all spotted problems with the Raven when I performed it to them ( I realise that this might just mean that I'm not much good at it!) but were amazed by the Subterfuge vanish. I find that the raven creates an unnatural hand position, can be difficult to actually steal the coin and has let me down right at the end (can't say much more without causing disclosure). Subterfuge is much cleaner.

I just searched ebay and have seen that there is one for sale there at the moment. It is now for sale as Subterfuge Version 2 - I don't know what the improvements are but it is significantly more expensive than the original when I bought it.

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James

Hi Decipi,

sorry but i loathe it..........its noisy, unnatural and expensive

buy bobo instead

Click here for no less than three reviews of the Raven and plenty of discussion regarding its pros and cons.