The next step with cards and coins

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The next step with cards and coins

Postby fletch » Dec 15th, '03, 14:53



OK, a bit of a vague question here, but here goes....
I've now just about worked my way through Hugard's RRTCM + expert card technique + Bobo's Modern coin magic. I'm reasonably capable in most of the techniques described in thes excellent tomes, although I still have a long road of continued practice ahead of me before I can even begin to think about having "mastered" them. The question is where do i go from here to take me to the next level? I've read some of the reviews of books + DVDs, but really want an idea of what you people think would be a useful next step. I've considered the card College series, but how much extra will that have in that's not been covered in the 2 Hugard books? With coins I'm even less sure of where to head, but would be particularly interested in learning some more trticks with coin boxes. I know this is vague (perhaps deliberately so), but I would appreciate any ideas on where to head next.

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Postby jabba01 » Dec 15th, '03, 15:27

For card tricks i would recomend OZ's videos on Pengiun.com


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Postby BaBaBoom » Dec 15th, '03, 15:32

I would highly recommend the Derren video, Devils Picturebook.
It is a fantastic 3 hour video on card work, some great routines and the last half hour (ish) goes into routines that are done with cards but are more mentalism type tricks, very good in my opinion.

Find more info here :

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1350

Hope that helps,

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Postby fletch » Dec 15th, '03, 16:37

Cheers,
I'll probably go for the video in the New Year (I read the great reviews about this tape). More looking for books though. Is card college a good investment or is it going over the same stuff in more detail?

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Postby Mandrake » Dec 15th, '03, 16:50

You might want to have a look at the range of books by John Scarne - he did books of routines on coins as well as cards and other props. Although rather old fashioned by today's standards (as is RRTCM!) there are some real gems in them as well as less exciting stuff. Karl Fulves is another author who's works are inexpensively produced in book format. Both of these guys include almost self working routines as well as the more tricky routines.

(I know I should have checked emagictricks to see if these authors are available from there but I'm short on time today!) :wink:

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Postby the_mog » Dec 15th, '03, 19:27

i know your looking for books but personally id recommend the Easy to master Card Miracle series from Michael Ammar.... pretty much what it says on the tin, easy enough to do mostly with some sleights that are fully explained on the tapes/DVD's

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Postby BeerForDolphins » Dec 16th, '03, 10:59

...you could also look at the Art of Astonishment books which will keep you occupied till you retire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby Mandrake » Dec 16th, '03, 11:00

Now how could I have forgotten those?! They cost quite a bit of money but are truly worthwhile - even just as reference books.

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Postby fletch » Dec 17th, '03, 14:33

Thanks chaps,
Some good suggestions there, some of which I'd already considered. I'd particularly considered the Paul Harris tomes, but receieved advice from a fairly esteemed source that they may be a little TOO in depth. Any comments on this?

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Postby Mandrake » Dec 17th, '03, 15:41

Paul's Books cover a very wide area of effects and will apeal to newbies as well as the old hands. Some are way above my head but others are charmingly simple. Like me. (!)They're also a damned good read as the style is so off the wall it's fascinating. Effects and tricks are interpersed with little essays and details of events leading up to other events - nothing to do with the trick which follows or anything like that!

If you can find the readies (and the books!) they're a very good investment and, if all else fails, I'm sure you could get at least what you paid for them when and if they go out of print!

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Postby magicdiscoman » Dec 17th, '03, 16:37

ok you peeked my interest any chance of a link and a payment plan :lol:

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Postby fletch » Dec 17th, '03, 16:45

Mandrake,
Cheers, I have just sent my beloved a link to an internet magic site which happens to have them for sale. Purely for informational purposes, you understand...

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Postby Mandrake » Dec 17th, '03, 17:02

Nice one!

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